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Title: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: bwildered on June 01, 2017, 04:16:51 PM
Who will be the winners of ICC Champions Trophy 2017 ?
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: nat on June 01, 2017, 07:41:50 PM
OK own up, who is the clown who voted Bangladesh?
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: Andy on June 01, 2017, 08:49:20 PM
OK own up, who is the clown who voted Bangladesh?

Well, given the unexpected vote on Brexit, Trump's election victory, the polls seemingly turning in Corbyn's direction and the possible lifting of a certain restraining order... :-[
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: bwildered on June 10, 2017, 10:38:08 PM
Looks like the clown has got a big smile across his face .
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: Andy on June 11, 2017, 09:42:05 AM
Looks like the clown has got a big smile across his face .

Nowadays we should expect the unexpected. Strong and stable.
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: nat on June 11, 2017, 10:01:04 AM
Looks like the clown has got a big smile across his face .

You sound like a Corbyn-ite. They haven't won ... yet and Corbyn/Labour didn't win the election contrary to the Labour-ite view of mathematics.
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: Andy on June 11, 2017, 10:18:18 AM
Looks like the clown has got a big smile across his face .
You sound like a Corbyn-ite. They haven't won ... yet and Corbyn/Labour didn't win the election contrary to the Labour-ite view of mathematics.

I've been trying to think of a suitable sporting metaphor for the events of Thursday/Friday, but I remember Nasser Hussain saying how ones 'stock' as an England player rose the longer one was scoring runs and the national team was struggling. I guess JC has benefitted from this and may well continue to do so. No one can deny that Terry May and her boys "got one hell of a beating".
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: Valentines Park on June 11, 2017, 03:40:07 PM
I'm glad Bangladesh are doing well. Seemed like all of Tower Hamlets were there to greet them at The Oval last Monday. Including tigers of the stuffed variety.
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: nat on June 11, 2017, 08:10:09 PM
I'm glad Bangladesh are doing well. Seemed like all of Tower Hamlets were there to greet them at The Oval last Monday. Including tigers of the stuffed variety.

Hmmm.... how many of them hold a UK passport, were born in the UK, went to school in the UK, work in the UK, pay their taxes in the UK ...?
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: Valentines Park on June 11, 2017, 11:37:42 PM
You are Norman Tebbit & I claim my 5 pounds.
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: Stringbok on June 14, 2017, 06:53:28 PM
Why can't England do an India and produce a pitch to favour the home team.  Another couple of years wait to finally win a global 50 over tournament.  if we don't win that one I guess we never will win one given our domestic 50 over game is scheduled to become a 2nd eleven tournament.
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: jwb on June 14, 2017, 09:07:10 PM
Because the pitches are prepared by the ICC not the home county groundsmen
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: alji on June 14, 2017, 11:10:20 PM
ICC Rules for the competition prevent the use of new pitches for the semi-finals. Loaded in favour of teams from the sub-continent. India Rules OK.
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: stewyww on June 15, 2017, 05:48:50 AM
Because the pitches are prepared by the ICC not the home county groundsmen

I detect grapes of the sour variety.
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: mawallace on June 15, 2017, 06:31:47 AM
The ICC should look at the whole thing.

It was reported that at least 35 per cent of tickets have been bought by Indians. Bit odd given its in the UK. The number of tickets on sale via third party sites is high, yet the official line is that they will only let you use their website.

I tried to get tickets to some of their matches. The website will often say tickets are available while you then select one or two tickets to buy the system says that none are available, yet when you look at the ground on TV there's loads of no shows! Bizarre!

So we are now left with a money spinning India v Pakistan (unless there's a upset today). I smell a scandal
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: LeedsExile on June 15, 2017, 08:39:34 AM
I am delighted England lost. Graves and his cohorts have prioritised winning the Champions Trophy and/or the World Cup. They are prepared to destroy the integrity of the championship to do this. So far their plan is not going too well.
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: alji on June 15, 2017, 09:47:59 AM
How does this destroy the integrity of the championship? Players have ALWAYS missed championship to play for England or in the past In England trial matches, more recently England A. Given that the championship loses money so has to be supported by ECB handouts from money generated by the national team, we are lucky to have as many as 18 teams with14 games a year.
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: Slogger on June 15, 2017, 11:03:26 AM
Clearly these two games should have been scheduled over the current few days (when 14 counties are inactive because of the 50 over knock out games) and over the weekend of 1 July when 16 counties are inactive (50 over final). Are they on TV?
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: Andy on June 15, 2017, 11:34:32 AM
Still want to laugh at the clown? Come on you tigers!
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: nat on June 15, 2017, 01:39:43 PM
How does this destroy the integrity of the championship? Players have ALWAYS missed championship to play for England or in the past In England trial matches, more recently England A. Given that the championship loses money so has to be supported by ECB handouts from money generated by the national team, we are lucky to have as many as 18 teams with14 games a year.

The CC only loses money because it spends more than it generates in direct income and as a consequence the ECB subsidises it. No ECB income = still a CC competition albeit with less money to go around.
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: nat on June 15, 2017, 01:40:31 PM
Still want to laugh at the clown? Come on you tigers!

I'm still laughing... at the mo. If India  don't chase 264 then I'll eat my hat.
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: Andy on June 15, 2017, 01:51:17 PM
Still want to laugh at the clown? Come on you tigers!

I'm still laughing... at the mo. If India  don't chase 264 then I'll eat my hat.

OK, Natty Ashdown.
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: alji on June 15, 2017, 03:12:53 PM
How does this destroy the integrity of the championship? Players have ALWAYS missed championship to play for England or in the past In England trial matches, more recently England A. Given that the championship loses money so has to be supported by ECB handouts from money generated by the national team, we are lucky to have as many as 18 teams with14 games a year.

The CC only loses money because it spends more than it generates in direct income and as a consequence the ECB subsidises it. No ECB income = still a CC competition albeit with less money to go around.
As long as it is subsidised the ECB have total justification for taking players for the national teams, and anyway if we refused to release a player, what would the player say?

There is a 2 innings limited time competition where England don't take players, for anyone who is bothered by releasing players. Once Graves's city thing does it's damage, we'll be playing in it.
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: Stringbok on June 15, 2017, 08:50:20 PM
The ICC should look at the whole thing.

It was reported that at least 35 per cent of tickets have been bought by Indians. Bit odd given its in the UK. The number of tickets on sale via third party sites is high, yet the official line is that they will only let you use their website.

I tried to get tickets to some of their matches. The website will often say tickets are available while you then select one or two tickets to buy the system says that none are available, yet when you look at the ground on TV there's loads of no shows! Bizarre!

So we are now left with a money spinning India v Pakistan (unless there's a upset today). I smell a scandal
I work in an IT department where we have offshored a lot of our work to India. We have a large number of onshore Indian staff as well and they seem to be hoovering up a lot of tickets for the Indian games.  A few years ago i tried to organise a social trip to see Essex's annual T20 victory at the Oval but garnered little interest.   In my experience Indians are lovers of Indian cricket as opposed to cricket lovers
Title: Re: Champions Trophy 2017
Post by: bwildered on June 18, 2017, 07:38:07 PM
Congrats to Pakistan winners of 2017 Champions Trophy, unpredicted by everyone .