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Off-Topic => 100 Ball Franchise => Topic started by: bwildered on April 19, 2017, 03:59:11 PM

Title: Just say no
Post by: bwildered on April 19, 2017, 03:59:11 PM
Essex have anounced that they intended to vote against the City franchise T20 concept .
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: Slogger on April 19, 2017, 04:08:24 PM
Good to see the club listening to its members.
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: Andy on April 19, 2017, 04:16:58 PM
Perhaps Ronnie "Zammo" Irani has heeded the call.
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: IlfordEagle on April 19, 2017, 06:24:59 PM
It will probably be a futile gesture but well done to the Club for going with the views of the Members.
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: essexfan548 on April 19, 2017, 10:00:24 PM
Good to hear that we are voting against this crazy idea.
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: pablo on April 20, 2017, 02:29:20 PM
Good on John Faragher for leading from the front with this which sits in stark contrast to his predecessor who couldn't role over fast enough to get any and every ECB 20;20 proposal adopted- including I suspect this one- no matter how deleterious to Essex's long term interests or to the sport in general. He rather wanted to change the sport into 'baseball' (quote) and saw the financial future there. Well the absence of any eulogies for him in the yearbook - apart from some obligatory pleasantries from Doug Insole- says it all. The fact is the club has finally smelt the coffee and has ended up doing a complete volte face in its attitude and direction.
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: bwildered on April 20, 2017, 04:25:13 PM
Must admit somewhat surprised.  But congratulations to club in rejecting, especially with the enticement of the promised financial reward.
Counties must keep their own identities to survive,
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: nat on April 20, 2017, 06:06:06 PM
More to the point, Mr Farragher has listened to the members which is a welcome change. Hope this is a long term trend.
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: Andy on April 20, 2017, 08:20:02 PM
Not surprisingly Durham take a different view...p#***d away all the regional aid thrown at them over the years now have nothing to p#** in and are grasping at straws.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/39642819 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/39642819)

Botham never won many tosses as captain...just saying.
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: IlfordEagle on April 21, 2017, 06:56:25 PM
I note that Middlesex's Chairman has expressed more concerns about the proposed franchises querying what happens after the £1.3m a year for 4 years 'deal' runs out for the Counties. Good point which nobody else seems to have thought of, short term gain for long term pain  it would seem for the Counties!!
I wonder what will happen after 2024??
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: nat on April 21, 2017, 07:49:28 PM
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I wonder what will happen after 2024??

The end of county cricket.
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: nat on April 24, 2017, 11:47:21 AM
I see that K*nt have copped out by abstaining on the franchise vote. Typical.
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: mawallace on April 24, 2017, 12:17:22 PM
But abstaining is voting "no"!
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: IlfordEagle on April 24, 2017, 01:57:37 PM
Kent are in the same boat as Essex & should really have the courage to just say 'No': John Faragher pointed out that the franchise system will mean large parts of the country being deprived of live cricket (watching on TV isn't usually quite the same), he is quite right & several Counties may well go to the wall eventually especially after the annual 'bribe' sorry payment from the ECB dries up (& I bet it will).
The cost of tickets will be very interesting to see as well as which competition suffers/has to make way for it - either the Royal London Cup will be axed or the SCC reduced again.
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: nat on April 26, 2017, 12:44:16 PM
So (most of) the turkeys have voted for Christmas. Full steam ahead for the end of 18 CC cricket.
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: Slogger on April 26, 2017, 12:48:14 PM
Kent are in the same boat as Essex & should really have the courage to just say 'No': John Faragher pointed out that the franchise system will mean large parts of the country being deprived of live cricket (watching on TV isn't usually quite the same), he is quite right & several Counties may well go to the wall eventually especially after the annual 'bribe' sorry payment from the ECB dries up (& I bet it will).
The cost of tickets will be very interesting to see as well as which competition suffers/has to make way for it - either the Royal London Cup will be axed or the SCC reduced again.
I think I read that the 50 over competition would be played at the same time as this with minor counties included (presumably as a way of securing their votes for franchise cricket). Maybe a weakened Essex  v Suffolk at Castle Park or Clacton wouldn't be so bad?
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: nat on April 26, 2017, 01:22:59 PM
Kent are in the same boat as Essex & should really have the courage to just say 'No': John Faragher pointed out that the franchise system will mean large parts of the country being deprived of live cricket (watching on TV isn't usually quite the same), he is quite right & several Counties may well go to the wall eventually especially after the annual 'bribe' sorry payment from the ECB dries up (& I bet it will).
The cost of tickets will be very interesting to see as well as which competition suffers/has to make way for it - either the Royal London Cup will be axed or the SCC reduced again.
I think I read that the 50 over competition would be played at the same time as this with minor counties included (presumably as a way of securing their votes for franchise cricket). Maybe a weakened Essex  v Suffolk at Castle Park or Clacton wouldn't be so bad?

Who would watch that...apart from two men and a dog?
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: Valentines Park on April 26, 2017, 01:58:34 PM
Maybe a weakened Essex  v Suffolk

A chance for Jaik to fill his boots.
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: huttoneagle on April 26, 2017, 06:40:41 PM
This figure of £1.3M per county for the first 4 years, is it guaranteed, or is it a figure that the "marketing men" think they generate for the counties?

If it is guaranteed, then the commercial negociations must be a lot further advanced than we thought!!!
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: nat on April 26, 2017, 06:43:43 PM
This figure of £1.3M per county for the first 4 years, is it guaranteed, or is it a figure that the "marketing men" think they generate for the counties?

If it is guaranteed, then the commercial negociations must be a lot further advanced than we thought!!!

The ECB have 'guaranteed' this figure, even if it has to come out of their large reserves. They expect the television/marketing deals to more than cover it.
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: squarelegumpire on April 27, 2017, 06:28:40 AM
This figure of £1.3M per county for the first 4 years, is it guaranteed, or is it a figure that the "marketing men" think they generate for the counties?

If it is guaranteed, then the commercial negociations must be a lot further advanced than we thought!!!

The ECB have 'guaranteed' this figure, even if it has to come out of their large reserves. They expect the television/marketing deals to more than cover it.

they might get that sort of money from Sky, but is putting it there going to reach the people they want to attract ...... inner 7 outer city children?
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: Slogger on April 27, 2017, 06:58:54 AM
I get the logic of playing the new competition in the school holidays but in reality you're trying to attract young people who's prime sports interest is probably football. Their season starts quite early in August, about a fortnight into the school holidays, with games played all over the weekend and midweek. Fixture scheduling should take this into account, I think.
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: IlfordEagle on April 27, 2017, 09:34:59 PM
The FL season usually starts the first Sat in Aug with midweeks beginning immediately, Prem 1st/2nd week in Aug with all senior non leagues also around that time so plenty of alternatives to cricket. It will be interesting to see attendances this year & the next 2 with the new T20 dates over the School holidays (also when it will be moved to from 2020 - probably early April/late Sept by the ECB so it will fail!!)
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: mawallace on April 28, 2017, 12:56:13 PM
(also when it will be moved to from 2020 - probably early April/late Sept by the ECB so it will fail!!)

The Nat West Blast (or what ever it is called in 2020) will run before the new format matches - so the draft timetable has it late May to Mid July!
Title: Re: Just say no
Post by: vim on April 29, 2017, 03:53:57 PM
If the Minor Counties think that people are not going to bother watching a down graded 50 over 1st class County competition and watch Minor Counties Cricke,t rather than watch the new competition or nothing at all, then they are deluded.

Some years ago, there was an idea to have a 3rd and a possible 4th division of the County Championship made up of the Minor Counties. Ralph Dellor, the broadcaster writing in his piece in the old Sunday league programme. Stated that speaking with the authority of someone who played Minor County Cricket and reported on it, that there was almost zero interest in their competitions.