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Title: Windies 2017
Post by: bwildered on September 28, 2016, 05:26:32 PM
Essex have been allocated 3 day Tourist match against West Indies 1-3 August 2017 .
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: Slogger on September 28, 2016, 06:46:23 PM
Good. Summer holiday cricket.
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: nat on September 28, 2016, 08:11:17 PM
They can play it at Castle Park.
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: IlfordEagle on September 28, 2016, 09:05:06 PM
Not the force they once were but a decent draw nonetheless, last time we played them the rain washed out Day 3 when we would have beaten them comfortably as it was Chanderpaul v our bowlers.
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: Blocky on October 06, 2016, 08:01:39 AM
They can play it at Castle Park.

that's not a great idea is it?  I love Castle Park, but I wouldn't put a tourist match there now.  6000 at Chelmsford, with proper seating (other than the HCE) 2,000 at CP....same level seating , lack of facilities....

come on..
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: jwb on October 06, 2016, 08:13:11 AM
I haven't checked but I thought they tried to give tourists warm up games against div 2 sides. If that was the case is this some attempt at a sweetener for us?
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: JasonP on October 06, 2016, 10:41:24 AM
I haven't checked but I thought they tried to give tourists warm up games against div 2 sides. If that was the case is this some attempt at a sweetener for us?

They generally get given to the teams that don't play on test match grounds I think.  Somerset played Pakistan this year for sure, so not just Div 2 sides.
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: jwb on October 06, 2016, 10:53:29 AM
I haven't checked but I thought they tried to give tourists warm up games against div 2 sides. If that was the case is this some attempt at a sweetener for us?

They generally get given to the teams that don't play on test match grounds I think.  Somerset played Pakistan this year for sure, so not just Div 2 sides.

That makes more sense thanks
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: nat on October 06, 2016, 11:31:30 AM
They can play it at Castle Park.

that's not a great idea is it?  I love Castle Park, but I wouldn't put a tourist match there now.  6000 at Chelmsford, with proper seating (other than the HCE) 2,000 at CP....same level seating , lack of facilities....

come on..

 i think it's an excellent idea.  can get 5-6000 in to CP and would help sustain the festival.
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: alji on October 06, 2016, 01:02:07 PM
Disagree, always liked outground cricket in principle but the most important thing is having a good view of the game, which for thousands would be poor at Colchester. Passable for a Sunday league game but not for a three day game with a big crowd. T20 reverts go the old scheduling next year so tag one on for 2017. Worked well with the Kent game the other year.
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: Valentines Park on October 06, 2016, 02:55:41 PM
Unless Gayle is playing the Windies don't draw flies.

Colchester could adequately accommodate them.

Hell send them to Barren Park that'll soften them up for England.
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: Slogger on October 06, 2016, 03:47:43 PM


Hell send them to Barren Park that'll soften them up for England.
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A cruel and unnecessary punishment?
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: IlfordEagle on October 06, 2016, 08:50:42 PM
Scheduled for Chelmsford according to BBC site - knowing the BBC's legendary accuracy it may well be anywhere else!!
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: jimmy on October 06, 2016, 10:04:33 PM
Unless Gayle is playing the Windies don't draw flies.

Colchester could adequately accommodate them.

Hell send them to Barren Park that'll soften them up for England.
expect the blue bibbed heavies on bag search duty will out number the crowd as they do for all tour games bar Aus and Ind.
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: Postman on October 07, 2016, 08:29:15 AM
Might this be a day/night match as preparation for the Edgbaston test? The report in this morning's Times says that WI will play warm up games under lights. I'd prefer a traditional game but who listens to us old f***s nowadays?
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: Blocky on October 12, 2016, 12:09:38 PM
They can play it at Castle Park.

that's not a great idea is it?  I love Castle Park, but I wouldn't put a tourist match there now.  6000 at Chelmsford, with proper seating (other than the HCE) 2,000 at CP....same level seating , lack of facilities....

come on..

 i think it's an excellent idea.  can get 5-6000 in to CP and would help sustain the festival.
go on then.  I'll humour your idea....

Give me the costing for seating 6000 people at CP for 3 days, and how much this would cost the non-members to get in to make the festival break even...?



Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: alji on October 12, 2016, 04:16:48 PM
You should also consider the impact on the NHS. Thousands with stiff necks from having to try to see round the several people in the rows of seats in front of them on the flat, and stiff backs from being crammed into temporary stands with less leg room that you get on a low-cost airline. Park grounds are only ok if you can sit in the front row.
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: Andy on October 12, 2016, 04:32:34 PM
For a one-off international contest like this, we should use a ground with proper seating and proper drainage rather than somewhere where the seating is uncomfortable and the likelihood that the outfield will be extremely soggy. Unless some bright spark considers putting on mud-wrestling during the lunch break intervals...
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: nat on October 12, 2016, 05:22:21 PM
Hang on a cotton-picking minute....
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I thought you were all in favour of retaining festival grounds. CP has successfully housed 5-6k people in the past. 3 days of good crowds plus another CC or 1 day game would be just the ticket.
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: Andy on October 12, 2016, 07:05:52 PM
Hang on a cotton-picking minute....
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I thought you were all in favour of retaining festival grounds. CP has successfully housed 5-6k people in the past. 3 days of good crowds plus another CC or 1 day game would be just the ticket.

OMG I've turned into Boris Johnson.  Must've been all that mud...   :o

Festival grounds certainly do have a role to play. As much as I love Castle Park, I know it is a bit of a gamble because of the local conditions. The CG has better drainage and facilities (!?) so do we put a potentially money making tourist match there, instead of at a festival ground? We tended to do that in the past.
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: Slogger on October 12, 2016, 07:13:22 PM
When was the last time we played the tourists away from Chelmsford?  I've a vague recollection of a game at westcliff v New Zealand
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: Perov on October 13, 2016, 01:50:49 PM
We played the South Africans in Castle Park, Colchester 1965.
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: nat on October 13, 2016, 03:19:45 PM
We played the South Africans in Castle Park, Colchester 1965.

There you go then.
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: bwildered on October 13, 2016, 04:31:31 PM
Think the last tourist game played in Colchester was against the Indians at the start of the 70's, but not at the Castle Park , but the Garrison Ground .
Unsure but might have been because of the weather .
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: Andy on October 13, 2016, 06:42:33 PM
Think the last tourist game played in Colchester was against the Indians at the start of the 70's, but not at the Castle Park , but the Garrison Ground .
Unsure but might have been because of the weather .

Was that when a certain G Boycott also got a couple hundreds against us? Not playing for the Indians, although I dare say his Amma could have played the eccc attack with a popadom on the Garrison ground wicket...
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: Perov on October 13, 2016, 09:38:23 PM
The Indians were at the Garrison in 1971, the same festival that Mr Boycott scored 233 against us.
Colchester also hosted Pakistan in 1967.

Westcliff had New Zealand in  1969, and 1973.
Southend had the Aussies in 1961, West Indies 1963, Aussies 1964, West Indies 1966 and Aussies 1968.
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: Andy on October 14, 2016, 06:56:45 AM
The Indians were at the Garrison in 1971, the same festival that Mr Boycott scored 233 against us.
Colchester also hosted Pakistan in 1967.

Westcliff had New Zealand in  1969, and 1973.
Southend had the Aussies in 1961, West Indies 1963, Aussies 1964, West Indies 1966 and Aussies 1968.

Thanks. Wasn't the 1971 festival moved from Castle Park at the last minute?
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: firehazard on October 14, 2016, 10:38:45 AM
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Westcliff had New Zealand in  1969, and 1973...

I remember the 1973 game at Chalkwell Park. School exams had finished, so I got on the train to Westcliff each day. Essex lost by an innings, but it was an enjoyable three days. I must have the scorecard somewhere...
Title: Re: Windies 2017
Post by: Slogger on October 14, 2016, 11:45:51 AM
Wandering off topic, I never saw us play at Westcliff. Hailing from the north of the county it wasn't the easiest place to get to without a car and I was still a teenager when we stopped using the ground. My son played there for his junior team a few years back and I was struck by how short the straight boundary must have been. He also played at Gidea Park, Romford which seemed a bit bigger but with not much space beyond the boundary