Essex Outfielder : The Unofficial Essex CCC Forum
Club Administration => Club Administration => Topic started by: Crisp on September 01, 2016, 08:18:08 PM
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I attended the members forum tonight, hosted by the Chairman, Derek Bowden, Chris Silverwood and Jamie Porter.
Points of interest as follows
Ground development-unchanged nothing happening the earliest expected start date will be end of next season.
Colchester-No decision made as yet, if its viable then it may be positive for future games.
Clubs finances-in a good place and we have had a good summer.
T20-big decision expected in next few weeks from ECB, Essex are anti franchise cricket, 2017 is protected from T20 change of format.
Olympic stadium will be used if possible for 20/20.
Playing side
We would be interested in signing Mohammed Amir for next season.
No magic formula to replace Napier, work with what we have.
Always interested in all players that become available.
Wheater here to cover for Cook for the last 2 games no plans to sign him as yet.
Asked about signing a spinner, answered can you find me one in English cricket?
Arron Nijjar, gone backwards, cannot get in his university team but scored runs lately for the 2s.
Dixon and Quinn have been injured-not used to such a workload, but Silverwood has been impressed with both, Dixon playing again and taking wickets in 2s.
Irani was at the 1 day game at Headingly.
Some guy complained that we were picking teams to suit white ball cricket?
Silverwood stated that was nonsense and asked as to when and it was the club policy to win every game in each discipline.
Applause was given to the coach and team
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Well I can find them a (decent) spinner if they want one. I'll work on a commission basis, no win/success no fee.
Thanks for the quick write-up.
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A good & concise summary, Thank You for doing that for our benefit.
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Many thanks, Crisp.
Gather from your comments that no-one asked whether Foster was going to be full-time next year.
Thought Nijjar did OK, but only just, when I watched him at Coggeshall. However, who is keeping out of the Uni team? Is there a possibility there?
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Many thanks Crisp on last night's Q & A summary . Was it well attended ?
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Thanks Crisp. I intended to be there, but NotWork SouthEast had other ideas.
With regard to a spinner, might we try and get Tom Craddock back? I couldn't get my head around his release and his five wickets against England in 2013 lives on in my memory.
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Thanks Crisp. I intended to be there, but NotWork SouthEast had other ideas.
With regard to a spinner, might we try and get Tom Craddock back? I couldn't get my head around his release and his five wickets against England in 2013 lives on in my memory.
Try recalling the name Grayson. It's only in the cold light of day, after his departure (Grayson not Craddock) can you fully appreciate his terrible judgement call on a whole host of players, both released and signed.
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Tom Craddock had an unsuccessful time with Yorkshire seconds. At the recent Yorkshire members forum it was said that he had been released because he had not developed but they would continue to monitor his progress. Presumably he is playing league cricket somewhere now? I really do not think he is the answer.
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I attended the members forum tonight, hosted by the Chairman, Derek Bowden, Chris Silverwood and Jamie Porter.
Points of interest as follows
Ground development-unchanged nothing happening the earliest expected start date will be end of next season.
Colchester-No decision made as yet, if its viable then it may be positive for future games.
Clubs finances-in a good place and we have had a good summer.
T20-big decision expected in next few weeks from ECB, Essex are anti franchise cricket, 2017 is protected from T20 change of format.
Olympic stadium will be used if possible for 20/20.
Playing side
We would be interested in signing Mohammed Amir for next season.
No magic formula to replace Napier, work with what we have.
Always interested in all players that become available.
Wheater here to cover for Cook for the last 2 games no plans to sign him as yet.
Asked about signing a spinner, answered can you find me one in English cricket?
Arron Nijjar, gone backwards, cannot get in his university team but scored runs lately for the 2s.
Dixon and Quinn have been injured-not used to such a workload, but Silverwood has been impressed with both, Dixon playing again and taking wickets in 2s.
Irani was at the 1 day game at Headingly.
Some guy complained that we were picking teams to suit white ball cricket?
Silverwood stated that was nonsense and asked as to when and it was the club policy to win every game in each discipline.
Applause was given to the coach and team
Thanks for the bullet points, Crisp.
When are the Club going to demonstrate some honesty over this embarrassment of a 'ground redevelopment'? They clearly have no idea what to do now, or for the past 5 years. Are they waiting for some as yet unidentified benefactor to come forward to rescue them?
I've offered the Club my professional input previously and was ignored......
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Tom Craddock had an unsuccessful time with Yorkshire seconds. At the recent Yorkshire members forum it was said that he had been released because he had not developed but they would continue to monitor his progress. Presumably he is playing league cricket somewhere now? I really do not think he is the answer.
Not a good enough batsman, I believe, which would explain his inability to hold down a contract. Pity, this is the problem with the county system - lack of flexibility. A specialist spinner is seen as a luxury, whereas in Australia the likes of Bryce McGain even get picked for the international side (even though the latter didn't have that much success).
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Tom Craddock had an unsuccessful time with Yorkshire seconds. At the recent Yorkshire members forum it was said that he had been released because he had not developed but they would continue to monitor his progress. Presumably he is playing league cricket somewhere now? I really do not think he is the answer.
Not a good enough batsman, I believe, which would explain his inability to hold down a contract. Pity, this is the problem with the county system - lack of flexibility. A specialist spinner is seen as a luxury, whereas in Australia the likes of Bryce McGain even get picked for the international side (even though the latter didn't have that much success).
It's a thankless task bowling spin in England these days. Flat pitches, small grounds and big bats predicate against it. I believe bat thickness will be regulated (and reduced) from next year so there might be some hope.
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I attended the members forum tonight, hosted by the Chairman, Derek Bowden, Chris Silverwood and Jamie Porter.
Points of interest as follows
Ground development-unchanged nothing happening the earliest expected start date will be end of next season.
Colchester-No decision made as yet, if its viable then it may be positive for future games.
Clubs finances-in a good place and we have had a good summer.
T20-big decision expected in next few weeks from ECB, Essex are anti franchise cricket, 2017 is protected from T20 change of format.
Olympic stadium will be used if possible for 20/20.
Playing side
We would be interested in signing Mohammed Amir for next season.
No magic formula to replace Napier, work with what we have.
Always interested in all players that become available.
Wheater here to cover for Cook for the last 2 games no plans to sign him as yet.
Asked about signing a spinner, answered can you find me one in English cricket?
Arron Nijjar, gone backwards, cannot get in his university team but scored runs lately for the 2s.
Dixon and Quinn have been injured-not used to such a workload, but Silverwood has been impressed with both, Dixon playing again and taking wickets in 2s.
Irani was at the 1 day game at Headingly.
Some guy complained that we were picking teams to suit white ball cricket?
Silverwood stated that was nonsense and asked as to when and it was the club policy to win every game in each discipline.
Applause was given to the coach and team
Thanks for the bullet points, Crisp.
When are the Club going to demonstrate some honesty over this embarrassment of a 'ground redevelopment'? They clearly have no idea what to do now, or for the past 5 years. Are they waiting for some as yet unidentified benefactor to come forward to rescue them?
I've offered the Club my professional input previously and was ignored......
If they have been reading your posts on this forum I can understand why.
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Not a good enough batsman, I believe, which would explain his inability to hold down a contract. Pity, this is the problem with the county system - lack of flexibility. A specialist spinner is seen as a luxury, whereas in Australia the likes of Bryce McGain even get picked for the international side (even though the latter didn't have that much success).
It's a thankless task bowling spin in England these days. Flat pitches, small grounds and big bats predicate against it. I believe bat thickness will be regulated (and reduced) from next year so there might be some hope.
To be fair, the fact that batters are so unused to spin, that should be an advantage. T20 cricket sees more spin than CC, which is one good thing for the shorn-off format.
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Well I can find them a (decent) spinner if they want one. I'll work on a commission basis, no win/success no fee.
Thanks for the quick write-up.
Given they aren't going to do that how about sharing your thoughts on who the possibles might be?
I guess we are looking for home grown or otherwise qualified as a non overseas - available, who would want to come to us and who could hit the ground running in Division 1. (I assume we won't be so bothered if we don't go up)
Off the top of my head most Div 1 teams have a reasonable spinner or two - Borthwick , Batty, Patel, Rashid, Parry etc so I'm very inclined to the view that we would need one if we got promoted
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OK you may be correct about being paid a commission so I'll give 'em a freebie this time.
I obviously don't know their availability but how about;
Hickey (Durham)
Parry (Lancs)
White (Northants)
Keogh (Northants)
Dawson (Hants)
Souter (Middx)
Big Ron should be able to use his silver tongue to persuade one of these players to move. Plus a big cheque of course.
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OK you may be correct about being paid a commission so I'll give 'em a freebie this time.
I obviously don't know their availability but how about;
Hickey (Durham)
Parry (Lancs)
White (Northants)
Keogh (Northants)
Dawson (Hants)t
Souter (Middx)
Big Ron should be able to use his silver tongue to persuade one of these players to move. Plus a big cheque of course.
Well indeed
But you'd take a pretty good guess that our management would have a whole lot more knowledge about these players - and their current situations then you would
So glad we saved the money on your commission!
Seriously, how many do you think of that list would hack it in Division 1?
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All of them... or I wouldn't have mentioned them.
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All of them... or I wouldn't have mentioned them.
So why haven't they made it in/been selected for/ transferred to a Div 1 team?
And why do you think it was insinuated at the members forum that it was difficult/nigh on impossible to find a home grown spinner that we could sign...?
Bless. You talk a good story!
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Why do clubs like Essex shrug their shoulders and assume that a lack of spin bowling is an inevitably in this country with nothing to be done to change things ? It happens because spin bowling is not encouraged in match play. If a county second eleven was packed full of spinners who bowled every over of the days play except one before lunch and tea no matter how ineffective they were you would have no seam bowlers. That is the situation we have with spinners, week in week out. No spinners is a self fulfilling prophecy.
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OK you may be correct about being paid a commission so I'll give 'em a freebie this time.
I obviously don't know their availability but how about;
Hickey (Durham)
Parry (Lancs)
White (Northants)
Keogh (Northants)
Dawson (Hants)t
Souter (Middx)
Big Ron should be able to use his silver tongue to persuade one of these players to move. Plus a big cheque of course.
Hickey, completely unproven, was reportedly in talks last year.
Parry doesnt play 4 day cricket
White not pulling up any trees in division 2
Keogh a part timer who got lucky in the last few games on bunsens.
Dawson, below average spinner, can't imagine would be available and doesnt like Essex
Souter, no idea. Although doesnt seem to play as ive never heard of him so can't imagine hes that great...
Well indeed
But you'd take a pretty good guess that our management would have a whole lot more knowledge about these players - and their current situations then you would
So glad we saved the money on your commission!
Seriously, how many do you think of that list would hack it in Division 1?