Domestic T20 not good enough

[JasonP]

I think one of the reasons why Surrey are so anti franchise is that under this system they pretty much sell out the Oval every match and make a lot of money for themselves.  Whereas under the franchise system they would have to share this money with counties like Essex who wouldn't be involved.  The way the franchise system is being sold to the counties is that if it happened the income would be shared among the 18 counties.  Surrey would lose out financially.

[Crisp]

You've answered your own question with 6/8 cities.

Plus no way will Surrey & Middlesex members get behind a combined London team.

So any franchise would have to rely entirely on pissed up office workers for a fan base.     

If you read its 6/8 seperate cities that is quoted
The combination of the 2 London counties is another reason why Surrey have turned the corner as I suggest that the home of cricket would be used because of the tradition.
Surrey and Middlesex 20/20 is already 90% pissed up office workers and corporate ventures, so that wont change.

[Valentines Park]

The combination of the 2 London counties is another reason why Surrey have turned the corner as I suggest that the home of cricket would be used because of the tradition.

So the ECB want to kibosh 2 grounds that regularly sell out in favour of one?

I thought franchising was all about making money.

[Valentines Park]

under the franchise system they would have to share this money with counties like Essex who wouldn't be involved. 

I'm sure RTD will be carrying drinks for some oufit or other.

[nat]

under the franchise system they would have to share this money with counties like Essex who wouldn't be involved. 

I'm sure RTD will be carrying drinks for some oufit or other.

So would you if the money was good enough.

[Valentines Park]

under the franchise system they would have to share this money with counties like Essex who wouldn't be involved. 

I'm sure RTD will be carrying drinks for some oufit or other.

So would you if the money was good enough.

& my main employer gave me plenty of time off to do it.

Not to mention a leadership role when I deigned to turn up.    

[nat]

under the franchise system they would have to share this money with counties like Essex who wouldn't be involved. 

I'm sure RTD will be carrying drinks for some oufit or other.

So would you if the money was good enough.

& my main employer gave me plenty of time off to do it.

Not to mention a leadership role when I deigned to turn up.

You have a job?

[IlfordEagle]

Interesting that Stratford is mooted as a possible base for a Franchise, if so then effectively it stabs Essex in the back as we have high hopes of using the OS for T20, I thought we had a strong claim bearing in mind Stratford was in the old Metropolitan County of Essex but doubtless the ECB will go for the biggest financial gain & won't worry too much about Counties suffering & losing out. In a straw poll in today's Daily Mail only Warwicks are wholly in favour with at least 10 Counties inc Essex opposed which says a lot for me, in all honesty I don't see many real cricket followers aligning themselves with a Franchise especially if few if any of their own County players are included, as another poster has said Sorry & Middx fans won't get behind a London Franchise & neither will Essex fans I reckon - I certainly won't as I follow Essex not an amalgam of us Sorry, Kent, Middx etc.
If they have a 2 division County T20 they have to play it in a condensed period with Test players available as well which they rarely are at present otherwise they probably won't attract top players from Overseas.

[jwb]

8 franchises 9 test venues of which Durham doesn't make money. So the other 8 pretty much cover the regions. Ought to bring in more money for all the counties. 4 day tests and a 4 day championship ought to keep most of the old guard happy for now. I suspect the biggest problem in getting the changes made will be Sky. Still interesting times ahead.

[Valentines Park]

under the franchise system they would have to share this money with counties like Essex who wouldn't be involved. 

I'm sure RTD will be carrying drinks for some oufit or other.

So would you if the money was good enough.

& my main employer gave me plenty of time off to do it.

Not to mention a leadership role when I deigned to turn up.

You have a job?

Why do you think RTD is my hero?

He's the king of excused boots. 

[Valentines Park]

I thought we had a strong claim bearing in mind Stratford was in the old Metropolitan County of Essex

A claim that would carry more weight if the club didn't think people beyond Shenfield don't count. 

[LeedsExile]

Of course Warwickshire are in favour. They are already a franchise called Birmingham funded by their council.

I really hope this idea never gets off the ground. As for 4 day Tests, we need 5 days in this country to allow for the weather. The idea that they would bowl more overs in 4 days is plainly absurd. A days play would never end as they try to fit the overs in.

[Perov]

All ths Sky pundits seem to think it is a good idea.
I hope the counties only agree to it if it is on free to air TV.

[Andy]

All ths Sky pundits seem to think it is a good idea.
I hope the counties only agree to it if it is on free to air TV.

The two statements above indicate that it isn't a good idea and in no way will it be free to air. The S*¥ goons just beach what they're told and I fear that no free to air broadcaster would bother to spend money needed - unless it was turned into a reality TV show...which actually sounds like a damn good idea.

day 86 and James is upset because Ryan is batting above him in the order...meanwhile, in the video room, Ravi is musing why one side of the coin is called tails when it doesn't have a picture of a woman's backside on it...

[Postman]

Of course Warwickshire are in favour. They are already a franchise called Birmingham funded by their council.

I really hope this idea never gets off the ground. As for 4 day Tests, we need 5 days in this country to allow for the weather. The idea that they would bowl more overs in 4 days is plainly absurd. A days play would never end as they try to fit the overs in.

Quite right re over rates. On day 1 of the last Test Pakistan bowled only 89 overs in the day plus the extra half hour, despite Yasir Shah bowling 31 of them.  The only answer is to add penalty runs to the batting side's score each hour at so many per overs not bowled.