Essex Outfielder : The Unofficial Essex CCC Forum
Off-Topic => In The Hut => Topic started by: SirChef26 on November 02, 2021, 02:37:29 PM
-
None of you need me to detail the Azeem Rafiq story. The discrimination engrained within Yorkshire CCC continues to shame the English game, of course we had first hand experience of this at Scarborough in 2017 when Amir ripped them apart. Latest reports detail a new low within their cesspit of a club.
It's time for the ECB to take action. Remove them from all County Cricket in 2022, they warrant no place in our system under their current guise. They shouldn't be allowed back until they've gotten rid of every single guilty employee, every culpable board member and publicly shown proof of having gotten their house in order.
The damage they have done to the reputation of county cricket may well be permanent and only accelerate its eventual demise.
-
Normally you can't keep Boycott or Vaughan quiet on any subject. I may have missed it but I am unaware they have said much on this topic. It is now being reported that Graves may come back as Chairman. The ultimate bully, who was in charge when all this business began. Priceless. ;D
-
Normally you can't keep Boycott or Vaughan quiet on any subject. I may have missed it but I am unaware they have said much on this topic. It is now being reported that Graves may come back as Chairman. The ultimate bully, who was in charge when all this business began. Priceless. ;D
Exactly. The supporters of AR have rejected the findings of an independent inquiry/panel.
-
Normally you can't keep Boycott or Vaughan quiet on any subject. I may have missed it but I am unaware they have said much on this topic. It is now being reported that Graves may come back as Chairman. The ultimate bully, who was in charge when all this business began. Priceless. ;D
Exactly. The supporters of AR have rejected the findings of an independent inquiry/panel.
The same independent inquiry/panel who have somehow adjudged that AR being called a four letter word beginning with P wasn't deemed as racist. Says it all really, no doubt they were made up of crusty old white men from Barnsley, Leeds and Sheffield who are still living in the last century.
Sponsors now beginning to pull out, good. Bleed them dry!
-
Normally you can't keep Boycott or Vaughan quiet on any subject. I may have missed it but I am unaware they have said much on this topic. It is now being reported that Graves may come back as Chairman. The ultimate bully, who was in charge when all this business began. Priceless. ;D
Exactly. The supporters of AR have rejected the findings of an independent inquiry/panel.
... no doubt they were made up of crusty old white men from Barnsley, Leeds and Sheffield who are still living in the last century.
...
At least two people of an Asian background I believe. But you'll believe what you want to believe.
-
Normally you can't keep Boycott or Vaughan quiet on any subject. I may have missed it but I am unaware they have said much on this topic. It is now being reported that Graves may come back as Chairman. The ultimate bully, who was in charge when all this business began. Priceless. ;D
Exactly. The supporters of AR have rejected the findings of an independent inquiry/panel.
... no doubt they were made up of crusty old white men from Barnsley, Leeds and Sheffield who are still living in the last century.
...
At least two people of an Asian background I believe. But you'll believe what you want to believe.
Clearly so will you.
-
Normally you can't keep Boycott or Vaughan quiet on any subject. I may have missed it but I am unaware they have said much on this topic. It is now being reported that Graves may come back as Chairman. The ultimate bully, who was in charge when all this business began. Priceless. ;D
Exactly. The supporters of AR have rejected the findings of an independent inquiry/panel.
... no doubt they were made up of crusty old white men from Barnsley, Leeds and Sheffield who are still living in the last century.
...
At least two people of an Asian background I believe. But you'll believe what you want to believe.
Clearly so will you.
The panel was chaired by Samir Pathak, surgeon and trustee of the MCC Foundation, and included Mesba Ahmed, vice-chairman of the National Asian Cricket Council, Rehana Azib, an employment barrister, Helen Hyde, the former Waitrose personnel director and Stephen Willis, CFO of Durham University and the senior independent director of Yorkshire County Cricket Club.
-
The frenzied White Rose Forum are suggesting they might be penalised by relegation and other sanctions. I think it highly unlikely how such punishment could be applied to a non playing issue.
-
The frenzied White Rose Forum are suggesting they might be penalised by relegation and other sanctions. I think it highly unlikely how such punishment could be applied to a non playing issue.
did it to Durham.
-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59155576
"Gary Ballance says he 'regrets' using racial slur against Azeem Rafiq during time together at Yorkshire"
-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59169535
"Yorkshire have been suspended from hosting England matches as the fallout from the club's reaction to an investigation into racism allegations made by former player Azeem Rafiq continues."
-
Well, once Alex has horsewhipped him through the streets of Batley, would we take him on as part of his rehabilitation?
-
Ballance has been praised in some quarters for admitting that it was he who insulted Rafiq but that was only after the Daily Mail had named him. To ban him from playing for England is no punishment at all as he was very unlikely to get picked again.
Stripping Yorkshire of International games is fine but the statement says "until they get there house in order". How can that be quantified? It should have been a ban of so many years so everyone is clear. As it is I bet they are reinstated in time for the Ashes test in 2023 which is the real money spinner. Losing a test v New Zealand and a one day match next year are no way comparable.
-
Ballance has been praised in some quarters for admitting that it was he who insulted Rafiq but that was only after the Daily Mail had named him. To ban him from playing for England is no punishment at all as he was very unlikely to get picked again.
Stripping Yorkshire of International games is fine but the statement says "until they get there house in order". How can that be quantified? It should have been a ban of so many years so everyone is clear. As it is I bet they are reinstated in time for the Ashes test in 2023 which is the real money spinner. Losing a test v New Zealand and a one day match next year are no way comparable.
If Yorkshire are guilty.
-
fron ESPNcricinfo
Yorkshire have been suspended from hosting international and major matches, including the Hundred final, following an ECB board meeting to discuss the implications of the Azeem Rafiq racism investigation.
Why only the final; why not the whole of the Hundred?
-
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2021/11/04/michael-vaughan-named-azeem-rafiq-report-totally-deny-accusation/?utm_content=cricket&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1636058895-1
-
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2021/11/04/michael-vaughan-named-azeem-rafiq-report-totally-deny-accusation/?utm_content=cricket&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1636058895-1
This should/needs to get legal. The only way to bring it to a conclusion.
-
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2021/11/04/michael-vaughan-named-azeem-rafiq-report-totally-deny-accusation/?utm_content=cricket&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1636058895-1
This should/needs to get legal. The only way to bring it to a conclusion.
I suspect that it’s going to run on for the winter months. What would Lord Hawke say?
-
As a Leeds Council Tax payer I am appalled that there has been no comment so far from Leeds City Council. They have been heavily involved at Headingley in bankrolling the operation with their council tax payers money.
-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59172267
"Yorkshire chairman Roger Hutton has resigned over the club's response to racism experienced by former player Azeem Rafiq. ......."
-
The frenzied White Rose Forum are suggesting they might be penalised by relegation and other sanctions. I think it highly unlikely how such punishment could be applied to a non playing issue.
did it to Durham.
Durhams financial mismanagement helped them on the pitch in the first place though, paying big wages to mercenaries like Benkenstein amongst a load of other non UK qualified players.
I'm not sure how Yorkshires 'alleged' racism helps them on the pitch. if anything it hinders them as they are missing out on lots of talent.
-
As a Leeds Council Tax payer I am appalled that there has been no comment so far from Leeds City Council. They have been heavily involved at Headingley in bankrolling the operation with their council tax payers money.
I suspect that phone calls were made behind the scenes.
-
The frenzied White Rose Forum are suggesting they might be penalised by relegation and other sanctions. I think it highly unlikely how such punishment could be applied to a non playing issue.
Although not a playing issue the board is responsible for the running of the club and subsequently problems which infiltrate within.
Now lost their test status temporarily, perhaps also Hundred franchise might also be taken away if points reduction is not applied.
Given the ECB stance on points reductions to other counties, ( eg Ciderset ), perhaps a reduction would be seen has also burying a issue with their own heads ostrich style.
-
Now there’s accusations of anti Semitic tweets from an ex Captain.
-
Now there’s accusations of anti Semitic tweets from an ex Captain.
It's an ugly world where off-the-cuff comments made many years ago can be dug up out of context and slanted to suit an agenda.
-
Anyone in the public eye would be well advised to avoid twitter. Sir Alastair doesn't participate in it.
-
Very wise. As far as I can see it's doing more harm than good.
-
Now there’s accusations of anti Semitic tweets from an ex Captain.
It's an ugly world where off-the-cuff comments made many years ago can be dug up out of context and slanted to suit an agenda.
Slanted? Careful now! Down with this sort of thing!
-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59223258
'The UK government is ready to "step in" if Yorkshire and the ECB do not take "real action" following the Azeem Rafiq racism scandal..... '
-
So, the Government is going to nationalise Yarkshire cricket club?
-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59227909
"Yorkshire head coach Andrew Gale has been suspended as part of an investigation into a tweet he sent in 2010. "
-
So, the Government is going to nationalise Yarkshire cricket club?
BoJo as new chairman. I'd pay good money to see that.
-
So, the Government is going to nationalise Yarkshire cricket club?
BoJo as new chairman. I'd pay good money to see that.
He’d do a better job than Colin Graves!
-
So, the Government is going to nationalise Yarkshire cricket club?
BoJo as new chairman. I'd pay good money to see that.
No, the role might require some real work so he'd appoint Michael Gove instead.
-
Martin Moxon is on sick leave. Where’s this going to end? As much as I dislike the club and certain individuals associated with it, this situation has the makings of a real tragedy. I suppose once someone has died then the freezing frenzy will calm down a bit.
-
Martin Moxon is on sick leave. Where’s this going to end? As much as I dislike the club and certain individuals associated with it, this situation has the makings of a real tragedy. I suppose once someone has died then the freezing frenzy will calm down a bit.
yep the woke mob are in full cry.
-
and now the press are after the head of human resources!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59231560
-
I am surprised he actually received a reply from Ms Netto. I emailed in the past a couple of times about routine issues but was ignored. I do think racking up 11 year old tweets is getting silly. There must be people employed somewhere who trawl through years of twitter utterances whenever someone is in the public eye. I wonder what that job is called?
-
I am surprised he actually received a reply from Ms Netto. I emailed in the past a couple of times about routine issues but was ignored. I do think racking up 11 year old tweets is getting silly. There must be people employed somewhere who trawl through years of twitter utterances whenever someone is in the public eye. I wonder what that job is called?
You can take your pick from
1. investigative journalist
2. muck raker
3. s*** stirrer
It's pretty standard practice to do this sort of trawl when a story is running. People who find themselves in the public eye seem to forget that the sort of crass comment that people may make in the pub when somewhat "tired and emotional" when broadcast on social media, is there forever and comes back to haunt them.
I really hope this storm doesn't spread to other counties, especially Essex. I fear it might. It seems there was a pretty toxic culture at Yorkshire, let's hope that's now being put right there and wasn't the case elsewhere
-
I noticed one poster on the White Rose Forum, presumably trying to stand up for Yorkshire, asked which other county has supplied two Asian players to the national team other than YCCC. I was tempted to reply, but didn't.
Lynda
-
I noticed one poster on the White Rose Forum, presumably trying to stand up for Yorkshire, asked which other county has supplied two Asian players to the national team other than YCCC. I was tempted to reply, but didn't.
Lynda
…and which county also had its Pakistani international bowler abused at Scarborough?
-
I noticed one poster on the White Rose Forum, presumably trying to stand up for Yorkshire, asked which other county has supplied two Asian players to the national team other than YCCC. I was tempted to reply, but didn't.
Lynda
…and which county also had its Pakistani international bowler abused at Scarborough?
Why wasn't this incident investigated and shouldn't it be raised again? The stewards did nothing ...
-
Yes, that's been very much on my mind whilst reading all their posts. One poster reported that he'd been subjected to listening to the racist rants of Yorkshire member sitting behind him at an England v India test match. My first thought was 'And you were surprised?'.
Lynda
-
Sometimes I wish there was a 'Like' button!
-
Seriously, is this a problem for us at Fortress Chelmsford? I’ve not heard anything at Old Trafford and I don’t recall anything untoward when I’ve seen ECCC in the past…
-
Like Lynda I am following the posts on the White Rose Forum with glee. There ignorance is sometimes astounding and some are beginning to view themselves as the victims in this situation.
-
Like Lynda I am following the posts on the White Rose Forum with glee. There ignorance is sometimes astounding and some are beginning to view themselves as the victims in this situation.
Well, they are Yorkshire people. But we should avoid gloating.
-
The posters on the WRF have, like many other people, lost the thread. Any racism directed to players while at Yorkshire is deplorable, but what is more deplorable is the mis-handling of the situation by the club. I can see why the posters and members are saying the club is being victimised by the press and social media, but they seem to have forgotten how the club acted. If YCCC had dealt with this correctly - rather than, apparently, closing ranks and trying to protect their own positions - then the whole thing wouldn't have blown up in their face.
Lack of judgement is what we call it, or maybe even stupidity - did they really think that it would all blow over? If they did, then they're not fit to hold their posts in the organisation.
Lynda
-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59220663
"Yorkshire chief executive Mark Arthur has resigned following the racism scandal at the club...."
-
and walks away with a huge payoff according to reports. Why?
-
and walks away with a huge payoff according to reports. Why?
presumably because there were no legal grounds to dismiss him.
-
and walks away with a huge payoff according to reports. Why?
presumably because there were no legal grounds to dismiss him.
As we know, once one gets to an elevated position it is "heads I win, tails you give me a big payoff". Joe Root has blundered into a bear trap now... just leave it to the incoming leadership team to do their job.
-
I well imagine there is racism at Yorks the club and indeed the county (Amir at Scarborough was the only instance i've seen/heard and was shocking in this day and age), in fact there will be in all clubs and counties, I'm certain (the idiotic and deliberate Buttleman incident springs to mind) it must be dealt with, and Yorks are their own worst enemies in how they have handled this, but its becoming a witch hunt. Rafiqs comments re Root the latest of such. Root saw none, yet Rafiq questions this. Hes really aiming for some scalps. I wonder why he was keen on resigning for them after his initial release given all the issues.
I would love to see Rafiq donate his 6 figure pay out to anti racism charities given this isn't about money or settling scores hes said. Sadly I can see the accusations, unproven, as guilt is always presumed in this cases however spurious the claims are, (I'm not saying all of them are spurious but some seem to stretching that they are racist - promoting the signing of Kane Williamson in his presence, throwaway open to interpretation remarks a decade ago that would only be seen as racism if you are scrambling to find something) ruining a few peoples lives. Once tarred with the racist brush it won't go away for Vaughan et al.
Pleased to see Mark Arthur go, hes handled this terribly, and is an arrogant fool. When challenged about the farce of the wet pitch game vs Essex a few years ago when Yorks did nothing to make a game when it could easily have been done, he brushed it off and was very smug about it.
-
Just a thought. There is an enquiry into racisim going on
Perhaps someone who was at Scarborough should report this to the enquiry?
Interestingly found this report
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/scarborough-spectator-cited-for-racist-abuse-1150571
-
We never experienced any racism from Yorkshire supporters, but still vividly remember being surrounded by a hostile group of them at Chester-le-Street. Made us feel very uncomfortable.
Lynda
-
We never experienced any racism from Yorkshire supporters, but still vividly remember being surrounded by a hostile group of them at Chester-le-Street. Made us feel very uncomfortable.
Lynda
Don’t be scared, as with any dumb animal, stare them out and throw some food (or small change) on the ground…
-
Interesting interview with Monty Panesar
‘My message to British Asian players is focus on your cricket’
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/nov/28/monty-panesar-interview-england-cricket-azeem-rafiq
-
That is the best advice to any young player, regardless of race or where they are educated.
-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59518669
"Director of cricket Martyn Moxon, head coach Andrew Gale and all members of the coaching staff are among 16 people to have left Yorkshire amid the racism scandal. ........."
-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59518669
"Director of cricket Martyn Moxon, head coach Andrew Gale and all members of the coaching staff are among 16 people to have left Yorkshire amid the racism scandal. ........."
Sweaty palms at The County Ground Chelmsford? Presumably most of our ‘culprits’ left years ago…
-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59518669
"Director of cricket Martyn Moxon, head coach Andrew Gale and all members of the coaching staff are among 16 people to have left Yorkshire amid the racism scandal. ........."
bet they didn't get anywhere near the payoff that AR got.
-
Monty P didn’t seem to think there was a problem at Essex. Mark you, he did behave oddly sometimes!
FWIW I think Rafiq had a bad time at Yorkshire, but I fear/suspect that anyone else they picked who couldn’t pass the ‘traditional Yorkie’ test wouldn’t have been treated well. Maybe someone from Lancashire or Durham could get away with it but what about someone from Sussex or Essex?
-
According to The Cricketer, Roger Hutton the former CEO who joined after the incidents, wanted to sack most of the above. Unfortunately he was prevented by someone who no longer involved in an administrative role in Cricket that has control of a trust which has a big financial interest in Yorkshire CCC.
A wrong move by the now former CEO and rugs would have been pulled from under Yorkshire CCC.
-
Yorkshire sack 16 coaching staff. Seems like a clean sweep of staff, whether innocence or guilty, with some in possession of a post being the wrong time and place, and now possibly unemployable
So new recruits required, would a couple of coaches in very prominent positions has head coaches at present, be enticed back to the county or is the job just a poison challis .
Would have thought that most of the membership are glad of a new regime, considering the lack of trophies on the cabinet recently.
-
I can remember a discussion with another member when Essex were in the dark ages around the turn of the Century. They said to me if you have a clear out you must have something lined up a replacement. I disagreed and said from my experience in work when a useless senior employee is removed, it can be better to just leave the position vacant for a while.
-
I can remember a discussion with another member when Essex were in the dark ages around the turn of the Century. They said to me if you have a clear out you must have something lined up a replacement. I disagreed and said from my experience in work when a useless senior employee is removed, it can be better to just leave the position vacant for a while.
Who was it that said, in regards to recruitment in the Civil Service, ‘there are two reasons for appointing someone: either there was no one else or there was someone else’?
-
It's still kicking off at Yawkshur. Several players allegedly unhappy at the sackings. There might be some batsmen on the market soon.
-
I can remember a discussion with another member when Essex were in the dark ages around the turn of the Century. They said to me if you have a clear out you must have something lined up a replacement. I disagreed and said from my experience in work when a useless senior employee is removed, it can be better to just leave the position vacant for a while.
Who was it that said, in regards to recruitment in the Civil Service, ‘there are two reasons for appointing someone: either there was no one else or there was someone else’?
Not just true in the Civil Service, Andy.
-
Yorkshire sack 16 coaching staff. Seems like a clean sweep of staff, whether innocence or guilty, with some in possession of a post being the wrong time and place, and now possibly unemployable
So new recruits required, would a couple of coaches in very prominent positions has head coaches at present, be enticed back to the county or is the job just a poison challis .
Would have thought that most of the membership are glad of a new regime, considering the lack of trophies on the cabinet recently.
This could well be a costly exercise for Yorkshire. You can’t just sack people for no reason.
-
The Yorkies seem to be in a mess. Surely the entire coaching staff can’t be guilty of misconduct due to racism. There must be some who have a defence, even if it’s not a very good one. Have they all been in post since whenever?
I suppose you could argue the team’s results haven’t been that good, so the coaching staff deserve the sack! Although they could argue that given the players they had to work with ……
-
The Yorkies seem to be in a mess. Surely the entire coaching staff can’t be guilty of misconduct due to racism. There must be some who have a defence, even if it’s not a very good one. Have they all been in post since whenever?
I suppose you could argue the team’s results haven’t been that good, so the coaching staff deserve the sack! Although they could argue that given the players they had to work with ……
The justification for the sackings seems to be that each person put their name to a letter sent to the Board of YCCC asking for a more robust defence of the allegations made by AR and that AR was a disruptive influence (my words) on/off the pitch.
I'd imagine YCCC must have got some good legal advice on which to base the dismissals....or they face costly proceedings. YCCC may have also taken the view that the potential legal costs would be worth it if the ECB re-instate the hosting of international fixtures.
-
I find it astonishing that Darren Gough is being touted as the new head of cricket at Yorkshire and is being hailed by some as a saviour. He has no coaching experience at all that I am aware of and since stopping playing has just been a "rent a gob" for trash radio. He was also present in both Essex and Yorkshire dressing rooms when some of this racist activity is alleged to have happened.
-
Darren has been living in Swanbourne, Buckinghamshire for a number of years.
His boys played at local cricket clubs - why would he move back to Yorkshire?
-
To me, Yorkshire were better when they had Dizzy in charge. Having an outsider every so often is useful... Indeed, we had our jobs for the boys policy in full swing at the time of our problems.
Argee about Gough. He may be a great coach, but not sure if Yorkshire benefitted from his Bearleyesque captaincy...
-
To me, Yorkshire were better when they had Dizzy in charge. Having an outsider every so often is useful... Indeed, we had our jobs for the boys policy in full swing at the time of our problems.
Argee about Gough. He may be a great coach, but not sure if Yorkshire benefitted from his Bearleyesque captaincy...
YCCC would put Fred Boycott in charge if it persuaded the ECB re-instate international matches at Headingley. That's all they care about at the moment.
-
It's officially the silly season, Dazza Gough is to become DoC. There is also speculation that Anthony McGrath is wanted as Head Coach.
-
Here's a thought. McGrath leaves and is replaced by RTD as coach.
-
According to the BBC Gough was Essex captain ... I'm sure Ronnie will be interested to read that!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59545490
"He made his debut for Yorkshire in 1989 and was part of the squad who won the 2001 County Championship, which was the club's first victory in 33 years.
He left to join Essex as skipper in 2004 before returning to Yorkshire as captain in 2007. "
-
Don't ever expect the BBC to check their "facts".
-
Here's a thought. McGrath leaves and is replaced by RTD as coach.
Silverwood might become available before Christmas( !! ) for them or us .
-
Good point! If England lose badly it is hard to see both Silverwood and Root remaining.
-
The Yorkies seem to be in a mess. Surely the entire coaching staff can’t be guilty of misconduct due to racism. There must be some who have a defence, even if it’s not a very good one. Have they all been in post since whenever?
I suppose you could argue the team’s results haven’t been that good, so the coaching staff deserve the sack! Although they could argue that given the players they had to work with ……
The justification for the sackings seems to be that each person put their name to a letter sent to the Board of YCCC asking for a more robust defence of the allegations made by AR and that AR was a disruptive influence (my words) on/off the pitch.
I'd imagine YCCC must have got some good legal advice on which to base the dismissals....or they face costly proceedings. YCCC may have also taken the view that the potential legal costs would be worth it if the ECB re-instate the hosting of international fixtures.
I’m not a lawyer, but I agree with you; I believe there’s one case pending already. I can, I think, see the cricketing sense of recruiting Gough to a senior position but I’m not sure it’s a good idea to employ anyone from the relevant period at the moment, however ‘totemic’ they might be.
-
It'll be nice to have a change of head coach, a chance for the new CEO to bring his own man in (and new assistant/bowling coach as well). As long as it's not Ten Doeschate or god forbid, Stuart Law!
-
I think that McGrath was at Yorkshire when the Rafiq business was going on?
Quote from wikipedia,
"McGrath retired from professional cricket following the conclusion of the 2012 season.[1] After retirement he worked as a coaching consultant for Yorkshire, and in February 2016 was appointed assistant head coach at Essex, assisting his former Yorkshire colleague Chris Silverwood[7]"
If this is correct then it would make him a certain non-starter for the job.
-
Promoting the same idiots from within the ‘inner circle’ is what caused these problems at Yorkshire and here…
-
you can take the man out of Yawkshur but...
-
Anyone else getting te feeling tat Spoons might be the Yorkies coach next season?
Not that I expect that the next England coach/manager (or whatever) to do much better, with the players available.
-
The post has been advertised and the talk up here is still about McGrath being their number 1 target. I think the post will have been filled before Silverwood leaves England. Maybe he will return to Essex?
-
The post has been advertised and the talk up here is still about McGrath being their number 1 target. I think the post will have been filled before Silverwood leaves England. Maybe he will return to Essex?
Filled before the end of December?!
-
Is Silverwood's wife still employed in the racing industry? I recall Paul Newton, who knows that game, saying that was the reason for his move to Middlesex and presumably his job with Essex. Her career may well be an influence on where he goes next?
-
No one has mentioned that other Yorkshire coach Paul Grayson…
-
He's been mentioned several times on the White Rose Forum, on the basis that he wasn't there when it was all happening so he shouldn't have been sacked. What they fail to say - even though the little local difficulty at Essex has been mentioned - is that he was somewhere else when apparently the same thing was going on.
Lynda
-
Precisely Lynda. Their inability to put 2+2 together astonishes me. The White Rose Forum is full of one eyed ignorant opinion.
-
Precisely Lynda. Their inability to put 2+2 together astonishes me. The White Rose Forum is full of one eyed ignorant opinion.
Yorkshire people one eyed and ignorant, and seemingly innumerate? Never!
-
I see Yorkshire are making a cynical attempt to look better by engaging in a partnership with a Lahore franchise. They have also signed a player called Rolf Harris (well nearly). ;)
-
https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/378/digital-culture-media-and-sport-committee/news/160252/public-funding-for-cricket-must-depend-on-progress-to-tackle-racism/
Here is the report .... I can't see any reference to the call for evidence.
-
A friend alerted me to this article: https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/cricket/exclusive-robin-smith-on-attack-in-yorkshire-ccc-row-3528701
"FORMER Yorkshire chairman Robin Smith has launched a strong attack on new encumbent Lord Kamlesh Patel, calling on club members to rise up against proposals to make key changes to the club rules and questioning the process by which Patel was appointed."
-
Yorkshire doing what they do best - shooting themselves in the foot and stabbing each other in the back.
-
Well, what’s the point in having rules if they are going to be ignored?
That’s what Boris is being criticised for at the moment 😂
-
Well, what’s the point in having rules if they are going to be ignored?
That’s what Boris is being criticised for at the moment 😂
“They all want bl**dy shooting” to misquote a famous football manager.
-
Article in The cricketer:
https://www.thecricketer.com/Topics/cricket-racism-crisis/lord_patel_takes_aim_robin_smith_yorkshire_reforms_blocked.html
"Yorkshire chair Lord Patel has accused Robin Smith, of “actively working with the sole intention to destabilise and even destroy” the club.
Patel, who was appointed Yorkshire chair following revelations of racism at the club, had proposed a raft of constitutional changes designed to promote diversity and convince the ECB that Leeds was a fitting host for international cricket. The ECB had stripped them of that right after the emergence of a history of racism at Yorkshire.
But Smith, a past chair and president of the club, has effectively delayed such changes being ratified by pointing out some procedural errors which took place before Patel’s involvement with the club.
It is understood those errors relate to a failure to notify the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) of an agreement whereby the club could contact members by email instead of post. ........."
-
Given our troubles I’ll refrain from laughing.
-
https://www.thecricketer.com/Topics/countycricket/yorkshire_will_be_allowed_to_host_international_cricket_in_2022_if_ecb_conditions_are_met.html
Entirely predictable, Yorkshire walk away scott free. A few people, some probably innocent, lost their jobs but the club found guilty of racism is not punished at all. Disgusting.
-
https://www.thecricketer.com/Topics/countycricket/yorkshire_will_be_allowed_to_host_international_cricket_in_2022_if_ecb_conditions_are_met.html
Entirely predictable, Yorkshire walk away scott free. A few people, some probably innocent, lost their jobs but the club found guilty of racism is not punished at all. Disgusting.
Yes indeed.
Naughty boy, let mummy spank you…now you’ve learnt your lesson.
-
https://www.thecricketer.com/Topics/countycricket/yorkshire_will_be_allowed_to_host_international_cricket_in_2022_if_ecb_conditions_are_met.html
Entirely predictable, Yorkshire walk away scott free. A few people, some probably innocent, lost their jobs but the club found guilty of racism is not punished at all. Disgusting.
The club is its members. Are you suggesting the members should be punished for the (alleged) actions of a few people?
-
https://www.thecricketer.com/Topics/countycricket/yorkshire_will_be_allowed_to_host_international_cricket_in_2022_if_ecb_conditions_are_met.html
Entirely predictable, Yorkshire walk away scott free. A few people, some probably innocent, lost their jobs but the club found guilty of racism is not punished at all. Disgusting.
The club is its members. Are you suggesting the members should be punished for the (alleged) actions of a few people?
Yes the members should be punished, weren't the members the ones abusing Amir at Scarborough?
It was members that shouted sexist language when I last attended a match there too - disgusting.
-
Durham's members suffered for the actions of their board when they were relegated.
-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61808315
"Charges have been brought against "a number of individuals" by English cricket's governing body in relation to allegations of racism at Yorkshire.
The accused, who have not been named, could be banned or fined by the England and Wales Cricket Board.
Yorkshire itself has also been charged with breaching the anti-racism rules."
-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61808315
"Charges have been brought against "a number of individuals" by English cricket's governing body in relation to allegations of racism at Yorkshire.
The accused, who have not been named, could be banned or fined by the England and Wales Cricket Board.
Yorkshire itself has also been charged with breaching the anti-racism rules."
They’ve been named elsewhere.
https://www.thecricketer.com/Topics/countycricket/ecb_charge_yorkshire_seven_individuals_following_investigation.html
-
What sanctions can the ECB have over retired cricketers?
-
None. This is becoming an exercise in futility only filling the pockets of lawyers.
-
None. This is becoming an exercise in futility only filling the pockets of lawyers.
Indeed. I suspect that the ‘accused’ will need to take action.
-
Yorkshire have begun to unravel from within. First David Willey returns to Northants citing the "terrible atmosphere" at the club as a major reason. Astonishingly his social media post was "liked" by a number of high profile colleagues in the first team.
Today Tom Kohler-Cadmore announces he is joining Somerset. A major loss but as his father, who was the dressing room steward, was amongst those sacked not a great surprise.
Will the last Yorkie please turn off the lights.
-
Yorkshire have begun to unravel from within. First David Willey returns to Northants citing the "terrible atmosphere" at the club as a major reason. Astonishingly his social media post was "liked" by a number of high profile colleagues in the first team.
Today Tom Kohler-Cadmore announces he is joining Somerset. A major loss but as his father, who was the dressing room steward, was amongst those sacked not a great surprise.
Will the last Yorkie please turn off the lights.
Plus ca change plus ca meme chose.
-
Yorkshire have begun to unravel from within. First David Willey returns to Northants citing the "terrible atmosphere" at the club as a major reason. Astonishingly his social media post was "liked" by a number of high profile colleagues in the first team.
Today Tom Kohler-Cadmore announces he is joining Somerset. A major loss but as his father, who was the dressing room steward, was amongst those sacked not a great surprise.
Will the last Yorkie please turn off the lights.
We are in no position to gloat at this stage. Rightly or wrongly.
-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61978628
"Former Yorkshire head coach Andrew Gale will not engage with the England and Wales Cricket Board's disciplinary process after being charged following racism allegations at the club. ....."
-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61978628
"Former Yorkshire head coach Andrew Gale will not engage with the England and Wales Cricket Board's disciplinary process after being charged following racism allegations at the club. ....."
I remember that advert for a well known furniture retailer who’s strapline was “I’ll see you in Courts”.