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Off-Topic => 100 Ball Franchise => Topic started by: mawallace on September 22, 2019, 06:05:33 AM
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After our great success last night which players do you think we will lose to the hundred comp.
Here's my list
Harmer
Bopara. - I accept he may have moved on
Lawrence
Westley
Chopra
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Not sure about Chopra, but if still playing, Tendo could be in the mix.
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Don't care. Don't given this tourney any oxygen.
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Chopra isn't good enough hence why we've resigned him.
Not sure Westley will find a taker either.
Lawrence might be an outside bet.
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Prob depends how many are in a squad and how many OS players are allowed
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Teams will be able to select a maximum of three overseas players while there is no limit to the number of players from any county or country
Thus it would be theoretical possible for us to lose all of our squad if they were chosen across the eight teams. I know that won't happen though as I can't see all the squad putting thier name forward and if they did being chosen
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So Dan is the 'Icon' player - and getting £60,000 for the privilege!
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I reckon this all but confirms that Ravi is off. He’d have surely been picked over Lawrence if he were contracted to Essex.
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I reckon this all but confirms that Ravi is off. He’d have surely been picked over Lawrence if he were contracted to Essex.
Not too sure. Lawrence was the one many were tipping. As an example, from Espncric info:-
There are no realistic options from Northants - though Josh Cobb could be an interesting main draft selection - and both Essex and Middlesex were expensive with the ball throughout 2019, but there are three batsmen with three relatively different profiles who must be considered.
Dawid Malan is an impressive player, but he is pedestrian at the start of an innings (powerplay SR 122 since 2017) and might eat up too many balls at the top of the order given the fielding restrictions are lifted so soon (after 25 percent of the innings, rather than 30 percent in T20). Ravi Bopara starred under pressure in the second half of the Blast, but similarly takes ten balls to bed in, and has a more obvious weakness, as a slow-scorer against spin.
That opens up Dan Lawrence as an option, who would likely be cheaper than the other two. Lawrence is exceptional against spin (SR 154, av. 36.3 since 2017) and useful against pace (SR 148, av. 26.35), and bowls useful offspin to boot; he is the perfect man to keep things moving in the middle overs.
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I don’t bother analysing things like they do in order to get their word count up. Bottom line is that Ravi is a better T20 player and one of the best in the country. I’m not buying for a second that Lawrence was picked over him.
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At a tangent if I followed Kent I'd be a bit miffed that they won't have an 'icon' in the Oval whatevers, surely Billings at least has a case?
They seem to be making up much of this as they go along, players putting themselves in lower wage brackets etc, give it 1/2 years it will be doomed to failure - with any luck!!
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Player fee is only for contracted time with franchise team, not a complete season. But what will happen is some players from smaller sides will head turned by white ball careers .
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Saw this on another forum - which may explain why Lawrence was picked ahead of Bopra!
whoever is the Lord's coach (and the CEO's of each county) would know that: that Lawrence's salary price was £60,000 to play in the event, they would also know the prices of their other locals. For the sake of argument say Malan and Bopara wanted £75k, Delport and Harmer wanted £100k and Vasconceles only £50k. They would have considered their options and decided to choose Lawrence and forsake an 8th round pick, rather than choose any of their other options to employ an alternative local 'icon' player, and miss out on another round later this month.
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Admittedly I know nothing about the way they are going about picking players, but I did work with figures most of my life: have read this last post twice and can honestly say I don't understand a word of it!
Just as well the 'new' audience they are hoping to attract doesn't have to understand how the selection process goes - it's more complicated than the rules of cricket!
Lynda
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If it is the ECB who expects to understand?
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whoever is the Lord's coach (and the CEO's of each county) would know that: that Lawrence's salary price was £60,000 to play in the event, they would also know the prices of their other locals. For the sake of argument say Malan and Bopara wanted £75k, Delport and Harmer wanted £100k and Vasconceles only £50k. They would have considered their options and decided to choose Lawrence and forsake an 8th round pick, rather than choose any of their other options to employ an alternative local 'icon' player, and miss out on another round later this month.
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Pardon??
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Clever people, those Japanese.
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Okay I'll try to explain it. Later this month there is going to be a players draft.
Every player has named his price
When picking a player the team has to miss out on a round of the draft. The idea is that the better players will be picked up in the earlier rounds of the draft and you are left with the less good players at the latest stage.
Dan's price is one of the lower bands and therefore they have foregone one of the later rounds of picking a player.
If Ravi had put himself into a higher bracket then the team would have lost out on the opportunity to pick a player in one of the earlier rounds of the draft.
So by picking Dan they have picked a reasonable player and left their options open as to picking good players in the draft from the pool across the country.
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Okay I'll try to explain it. Later this month there is going to be a players draft.
Every player has named his price
When picking a player the team has to miss out on a round of the draft. The idea is that the better players will be picked up in the earlier rounds of the draft and you are left with the less good players at the latest stage.
Dan's price is one of the lower bands and therefore they have foregone one of the later rounds of picking a player.
If Ravi had put himself into a higher bracket then the team would have lost out on the opportunity to pick a player in one of the earlier rounds of the draft.
So by picking Dan they have picked a reasonable player and left their options open as to picking good players in the draft from the pool across the country.
Thanks for the explanation
Sounds like utter twaddle to me.
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Okay I'll try to explain it. Later this month there is going to be a players draft.
Every player has named his price
When picking a player the team has to miss out on a round of the draft. The idea is that the better players will be picked up in the earlier rounds of the draft and you are left with the less good players at the latest stage.
Dan's price is one of the lower bands and therefore they have foregone one of the later rounds of picking a player.
If Ravi had put himself into a higher bracket then the team would have lost out on the opportunity to pick a player in one of the earlier rounds of the draft.
So by picking Dan they have picked a reasonable player and left their options open as to picking good players in the draft from the pool across the country.
Thanks for the explanation
Sounds like utter twaddle to me.
Hmmm. Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad!
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I keep reading this in a vain attempt to understand it. However, I can't quite grasp the example of Ravi. I do understand the theory of selecting players by price, as it were, but surely it wouldn't matter if you had picked Ravi at, say, £85,000 if he was actually the player that you wanted to spend £85,000 on and therefore didn't mind missing out on that round of the draft because you didn't want any of the other players at that price?
After all, surely the teams will want to get a number of the players from their constituent counties to have any chance of attracting existing supporters to the matches?
Although I suppose it would matter if you had your sights set on all-rounder Fred Bloggs at £100,000 because you would prefer him to Ravi, leaving Ravi as a fall-back if you were unsuccessful with Bloggs. But then you might be unsuccessful with Ravi and end up with an inferior all-rounder at a lower price.
I think I need to lay down in a darkened room.
Lynda
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I keep reading this in a vain attempt to understand it. However, I can't quite grasp the example of Ravi. I do understand the theory of selecting players by price, as it were, but surely it wouldn't matter if you had picked Ravi at, say, £85,000 if he was actually the player that you wanted to spend £85,000 on and therefore didn't mind missing out on that round of the draft because you didn't want any of the other players at that price?
After all, surely the teams will want to get a number of the players from their constituent counties to have any chance of attracting existing supporters to the matches?
Although I suppose it would matter if you had your sights set on all-rounder Fred Bloggs at £100,000 because you would prefer him to Ravi, leaving Ravi as a fall-back if you were unsuccessful with Bloggs. But then you might be unsuccessful with Ravi and end up with an inferior all-rounder at a lower price.
I think I need to lay down in a darkened room.
Lynda
No, Lynda, you need to forget about it, and and apply to something which is more useful and makes more sense. Such as Latin irregular verbs.
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Can Fred Bloggs revalue himself after finding the eight franchise unwilling to pay his over inflated demand , which would leave him left on the shelf and the trudge of county cricket ?
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Who cares about any of this anyway?
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Can Fred Bloggs revalue himself after finding the eight franchise unwilling to pay his over inflated demand , which would leave him left on the shelf and the trudge of county cricket ?
Could this Bloggs open the batting for us?
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Who cares abount any of this anyway?
Not me.
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I don't care about the 100 either -
However, I do care if it affects Essex's results [e.g. someone gets injured] and if the team spirit is damaged.
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Don Topley cares
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/don-topley-why-we-must-support-the-hundred-1-6306560
I don't care to the extent that there is no team in there I'd support. As a, sadly, mainly cricket watcher on TV these days, I am interested in it and will watch it.
I think this is rather a generational thing. Younger cricket fans I know are much more up for it than me and my fellow veterans.
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If Don Topley is in favour that is another reason to despise the thing.
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If Don Topley is in favour that is another reason to despise the thing.
Agreed.
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If Don Topley is in favour that is another reason to despise the thing.
Agreed.
Is Reece putting himself forward? If so, which pay bracket has he put himself into?
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If I understand Topleys argument it is something like this:
we have 18 counties playing first class, 50 over and 20 over matches which makes for a crowded season. Therfore, to solve this problem, we need to add the 100 as a further competition and crowd the season even more!!
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If I understand Topleys argument it is something like this:
we have 18 counties playing first class, 50 over and 20 over matches which makes for a crowded season. Therfore, to solve this problem, we need to add the 100 as a further competition and crowd the season even more!!
With that line of genius argument he could work for the ECB. Maybe that's what he's angling for.
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Don Topley cares
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/don-topley-why-we-must-support-the-hundred-1-6306560
I don't care to the extent that there is no team in there I'd support. As a, sadly, mainly cricket watcher on TV these days, I am interested in it and will watch it.
I think this is rather a generational thing. Younger cricket fans I know are much more up for it than me and my fellow veterans.
Does anyone think that Topley really believes in the utter drivel he has come out with in this article?
I honestly wouldn't know where to start if I had an opportunity to question him on some of his vacuous statements.
I've seen large Dutch cheeses with less holes than some of his conclusions.
Methinks he is angling for a commentary job, presumably with BBC given his local radio background, for the 16.4 next summer.
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Don Topley cares
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/don-topley-why-we-must-support-the-hundred-1-6306560
I don't care to the extent that there is no team in there I'd support. As a, sadly, mainly cricket watcher on TV these days, I am interested in it and will watch it.
I think this is rather a generational thing. Younger cricket fans I know are much more up for it than me and my fellow veterans.
Does anyone think that Topley really believes in the utter drivel he has come out with in this article?
I honestly wouldn't know where to start if I had an opportunity to question him on some of his vacuous statements.
I've seen large Dutch cheeses with less holes than some of his conclusions.
Methinks he is angling for a commentary job, presumably with BBC given his local radio background, for the 16.4 next summer.
He was sacked by the BBC less than a year ago. I don't think he'll be commentating for them anymore.
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Like the SixteenPointFour. Think we should call it that, to express our utter contempt of the whole thing.
Lynda
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Don Topley cares
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/don-topley-why-we-must-support-the-hundred-1-6306560
I don't care to the extent that there is no team in there I'd support. As a, sadly, mainly cricket watcher on TV these days, I am interested in it and will watch it.
I think this is rather a generational thing. Younger cricket fans I know are much more up for it than me and my fellow veterans.
Good point. I did a straw poll among the youngsters at Billereicay CC and they all seem very excited about The Hundred. I guess today's kids have been introduced to the game via Kwik Cricket, All Stars, Terriers and are not fazed by different formats and just love playing cricket. This is the audience the ECB are targeting and rightly or wrongly, they are the future of a game in trouble, not us oldies.
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Don Topley cares
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/don-topley-why-we-must-support-the-hundred-1-6306560
I don't care to the extent that there is no team in there I'd support. As a, sadly, mainly cricket watcher on TV these days, I am interested in it and will watch it.
I think this is rather a generational thing. Younger cricket fans I know are much more up for it than me and my fellow veterans.
Good point. I did a straw poll among the youngsters at Billereicay CC and they all seem very excited about The Hundred. I guess today's kids have been introduced to the game via Kwik Cricket, All Stars, Terriers and are not fazed by different formats and just love playing cricket. This is the audience the ECB are targeting and rightly or wrongly, they are the future of a game in trouble, not us oldies.
Disagree. Since when did we think children had more wisdom than adults?
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I don't doubt that the amount of social (and other) media coverage that The Hundred is getting with its fancy outfits (dubiously sponsored by fast food) will have made an impact upon younger people. However, whereas the likes of Kwik Cricket, All Stars etc are not unnecessarily challenging the fundamentals of the domestic game.
Indeed, those initiatives actually address the most important aspect - the lack of participation in the sport. Although plastic bats and coloured stumps may not be purist, there's no conflict (especially as the white ball game is itself very colourful).
The Hundred is based on the fundamental falsehood that the county game is somehow 'irrelevant'. If there has been any decline in crowds, it is because the ECB has messed around with schedules (the T20 Blast in particular, although it still pulls in crowds) and has foolishly encouraged the building of larger stadiums - which can only be filled by the occasional international match.
If the ECB had been more sensible in not encouraging unsustainable building projects by counties, allowed the scheduling of red/white ball tournaments, then there would be no need for The Hundred. Of course, that would mean that we still have 18 county teams - and we know that this is deemed 'too many' by those with vested interests in certain counties...
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If the ECB persist with this stupid idea to reduce the number of Counties to 8/10 then presumably it would be the weakest 8/10 at a given date, I would guess there will always be at least 1/2 so called 'stronger' Counties in CC2 Eg next year Notts, Sussex & Middx or will they just decide certain Counties irrespective of how they stand at present, certainly Durham, Glamorgan who have Test status would currently also be at risk & how could they say to Essex & Somerset the current 2 best sides ' Sorry but you don't qualify!!'
In Womens football a couple of years ago Doncaster Belles , one of the greats of the sport were effectively told they would be demoted ifo Man C who had done virtually nothing prior to then, hardly fair on DB. clear case of money talking. I suspect there will be uproar amongst the Counties if/when this is ever proposed etc.
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I thought far from being in trouble cricket in this country is on the biggest high for at least 15 years ( pace Atherton, Key and others). The last time it was this buoyant in 2005 the ECB screwed it up by abandoning free to air coverage, the impact of which has been devastating up to now in taking cricket out of the general consciousness.
20;20 attendances are rising nearly to capacity for most counties and even figures for Championship cricket have gone up. What extra appeal will be gained by playing 20 less balls an innings escapes me.
Denuding many of access to first class cricket by eliminating 8/10 counties - given the work they do with schools ,clubs, outreach and disabled cricket as well as their cricket schools- seems entirely counterproductive.
Many aspects of life given the existence of the X Box, low attention span generation face challenges but the continued bastardisation of a sport which still has millions of devotees can't be the answer and this assumes that the real motivation behind this 'innovation' is about attracting a new audience rather than what I think it is, a chancey hope of making someone a lot of money and concentrating power into a few hands a la football's premiership owners.
If this fails and let's face it there is a possibility it will. What's next? Ten overs a side, five overs a side or any bloody unrecognisable thing that the marketeers and grocery 'entrepreneurs' think might make them a quick buck.
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Since when did we think children had more wisdom than adults?
Since a Swedish truant made it fashionable.
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If this fails and let's face it there is a possibility it will. What's next? Ten overs a side, five overs a side or any bloody unrecognisable thing that the marketeers and grocery 'entrepreneurs' think might make them a quick buck.
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I don't think it will be allowed to fail. In the first season schools and clubs will probably be given free or very cheap tickets to ensure full houses of new fans and a new audience. The powers that be will not allow this to be on TV with half empty grounds. So with full attendancies it will be proclaimed as the most popular thing since before sliced bread.
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I've felt that the 21st century would see many sports collapse under the weight of dodgy money from dodgy sources, too much influence from government or quasi government interests, plus the overall lack of ethical scruples from those running the particular sport.
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I don't get it.
On this page alone, four separate comments from four regular contributors on here, namely Andy, bobw, Pablo and IlfordEagle; all making complete sense in their excellent contributions, yet I have not heard one player, ex-player or pundit ( with the possible exception of Agnew) who has said a word against the 16.4.
So what is it, are they lying through their back teeth when praising the great God "100", or are we all genuinely missing something obvious about how it will become the best thing since sliced bread?
I wish Tom Harrison, Andrew Strauss and Colin Graves contributed to this forum. They would not know what had hit them.
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Perhaps we could encourage a guest poster of the day section to accommodate them
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The 16.4 competition will need the Counties more than ever for a regular supply chain of 96 .
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I don't get it.
On this page alone, four separate comments from four regular contributors on here, namely Andy, bobw, Pablo and IlfordEagle; all making complete sense in their excellent contributions, yet I have not heard one player, ex-player or pundit ( with the possible exception of Agnew) who has said a word against the 16.4.
So what is it, are they lying through their back teeth when praising the great God "100", or are we all genuinely missing something obvious about how it will become the best thing since sliced bread?
It's The Emperor's New Clothes effect, common these days.
Lynda
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Would like to get this off my chest regarding the County game and the Hundred. It will probably contain a bit of devils advocate so apologies for what is probably gonna turn into an essay.
Bob is right, despite the rise of video games and the ability as a child to now make a living from playing video games (remember that kid from Essex winning half a million quid or whatever it was for playing Fortnite) this tournament will be a success I have no doubt. The power of the ECB's money, Sky, BBC and the sponsors such as KP snacks will not allow this tournament to fail even if it means getting half the crowd in on freebies for the first couple of years. You can guarantee that every school and cricket club in Essex will have access to free tickets for the Women's Hundred at Chelmsford and Sky/BBC will cream themselves when a good crowd then shows up and try to peddle the agenda that no one cares about their counties like they do the Hundred and it's all about the new show in town. The big names will attract people to the grounds and the office workers that plague the London grounds like locusts will ensure sell outs in all of their games.
I'm a believer in our current county game without a doubt. However I can understand why the ECB would want to see the back of the likes of Derbyshire, Northants and Leicestershire. They give each of these counties a fee of well over seven figures every year and none of them have produced an England player for years. They take money but give nothing back to the ECB, they get very small crowds and apart from providing healthy competition, are simply existing for the sake of it.
I don't believe the ECB would lump Essex in with these counties, our crowds stand up very strong for 4 day and 50 over Cricket. We sell out every T20 game and will do so again next year as people will naturally want to come and watch "the champions". We've produced top England players (and now coaches) in the modern era and are now consistently challenging for major honours in the domestic game. The massive noose around our neck which until fixed will always cast a huge doubt on our county status should the ECB go through with an 8-10 county cull in the next 5-10 years is the County Ground. I firmly blame the board for this. They fu**ed up the original ground development plans and still haven't made proper progress on any new development that will see our ground become fit for high level Cricket and a capacity fit for a club of our true size that currently sells out many games. I'm convinced we would sell out a 10-12k capacity stadium for T20 matches if Chelmsford could be expanded as appropriate. But I feel like the board doesn't have faith in our support which angers me. They don't realise how well placed our ground is. As someone who doesn't live in Chelmsford and travels in from London should I ever attend a game, trust me the ground is one of the best located in the country and so easy to get to, it's no coincidence our crowds hold up so well.
Then you have the Olympic Stadium shambles which again falls on the board. I've said it before and will say it again, using the OS for T20 Cricket was a truly golden opportunity to grow Essex CCC in a way that we could never dream of previously. To get well over 30k people in (a record for T20 in this country watching an Essex match (yes we would have sold that many I'm sure) and the opportunity to hook those new viewers to our club was a chance we'll never get again. It would have also forced the ECB once and for all to treat us a major county and not even considering putting us out to pasture in the future. They may have even offered us a franchise in the next 2-3 years! I don't want to hear any excuses regarding drop in pitch issues and problems with the diameter of the pitch etc etc. We've heard it all before and I don't buy it. West Ham and the council were more than accommodating and if we really wanted to do it, we would have found a way to make it work, just like MLB did with the baseball, even if it meant 250 played 250 in a T20 due to the smallest boundaries cricket has even seen. Sure we might have lost money hosting the event (on the other hand we may have turned a profit), but it would have been worth it for the new fans we would have gained that long term may have bought memberships, merchandise and become proper Essex fans who travel to Chelmsford for all forms of Cricket.
If the board want to ensure that Essex CCC still plays major domestic cricket in 5-10 years time they must bring Chelmsford up to standard in both facilities and capacity, no ifs or buts! As supporters our job is simple, all we have to do is stick together and continue attending Essex games as much as we can. T20 matches are a given for good sales but next year especially, we need to make an effort to attend our 50 over matches and show the ECB where our loyalties lie. Do not attend any Hundred games and give the ECB a reason to slit our throats in the future.
Should the very unlikely event occur that the Hundred falls on it's face and gets canned in the next few years, we'll survive. As the chairman is at pains to remind us, we are debt free and as fans we will continue to line the coffers by turning up to our home games in all formats of cricket. Sure we'll have to cut costs and slash the wage bill to make up for the shortfall in ECB revenue and unfortunately it will certainly mean the demise of a few counties solely reliant on the ECB handouts. But I'm an Essex fan and it's our future I care about. We will come through it together!
Sorry for such a long winded post, but I wanted to get it off my chest. I'm extremely worried about the Hundred cutting our major domestic competition life expectancy and it frustrates me that it doesn't seem like the board (who voted for this monstrosity) are singing from the same hymn sheet as our support. Simon Harmer said it best, we are not a small club and it's time the board acted like it.
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Sorry but you (and others) are wrong about the likes of Leics, Derbys and Northants. Many recent English cricketers have come through their ranks...and then moved on. This season each of these counties had several sellouts for their T20 fixtures. If the ECB stopped mucking about with the fixture list/league structures then the likes of these counties would have the chance to be more competitive. Remember that Northants got promotion from Div 2 of the CC.
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As an aside, one of my work contacts is very well connected with the business world in Leicester. He told me last week he'd been speaking to people involved at Leicestershire who told him they are in a parlous financial state. He contrasted that to the very well supported rugby union club (which he knows very well) and the football club. Apparently the cricket club doesn't connect with the Asian community and "gets very low crowds".
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As an aside, one of my work contacts is very well connected with the business world in Leicester. He told me last week he'd been speaking to people involved at Leicestershire who told him they are in a parlous financial state. He contrasted that to the very well supported rugby union club (which he knows very well) and the football club. Apparently the cricket club doesn't connect with the Asian community and "gets very low crowds".
Underlines the desirability of encouraging participation in East London. I often wonder why there are not more Asian spectators in the Tom Pearce. They'd be very welcome.
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As an aside, one of my work contacts is very well connected with the business world in Leicester. He told me last week he'd been speaking to people involved at Leicestershire who told him they are in a parlous financial state. He contrasted that to the very well supported rugby union club (which he knows very well) and the football club. Apparently the cricket club doesn't connect with the Asian community and "gets very low crowds".
I spent a very enjoyable day at Grace Road recently when they were playing Northants in the CC. By their standards it wasn't a bad crowd (it was a nice day, a local derby and Northants were in the running for promotion). But what most struck me was the presence of a squad of young Indian cricketers from Kolkote who were over here for some kind of international student tournament. They spent the morning in the indoor nets and mostly sat near me after lunch to watch the match. All the locals around me chatted to them and told them a bit about how county cricket works, the format of the CC etc-and one man even said "of course we [Leics] are the worst of the lot!"-but it was a genuinely good conversation. There didn't seem to me to be any lack of goodwill towards the Asian community and Leics have had plenty of Anglo-Asian players in their squads-eg Hassan Azad their opener who came second only to Sibley last season for total CC runs, plus their ex CEO Wasim Khan who is now running Pakistan cricket. My impression is that you don't find the Asian community in large numbers anywhere watching county cricket, but more and more youngsters are coming through on the playing side, which is as it should be.
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I spent a very enjoyable day at Grace Road recently
I've always enjoyed my trips there.
If you ask me they contribute more to cricket than those parasites Notts.
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Then you have the Olympic Stadium shambles which again falls on the board. I've said it before and will say it again, using the OS for T20 Cricket was a truly golden opportunity to grow Essex CCC in a way that we could never dream of previously. To get well over 30k people in (a record for T20 in this country watching an Essex match (yes we would have sold that many I'm sure) and the opportunity to hook those new viewers to our club was a chance we'll never get again. It would have also forced the ECB once and for all to treat us a major county and not even considering putting us out to pasture in the future. They may have even offered us a franchise in the next 2-3 years! I don't want to hear any excuses regarding drop in pitch issues and problems with the diameter of the pitch etc etc. We've heard it all before and I don't buy it. West Ham and the council were more than accommodating and if we really wanted to do it, we would have found a way to make it work, just like MLB did with the baseball, even if it meant 250 played 250 in a T20 due to the smallest boundaries cricket has even seen. Sure we might have lost money hosting the event (on the other hand we may have turned a profit), but it would have been worth it for the new fans we would have gained that long term may have bought memberships, merchandise and become proper Essex fans who travel to Chelmsford for all forms of Cricket.
They could not make it pay for the Cricket World Cup due to a number of issues. I understand that the ICC and ECB wanted to use the stadium but could not as it would cost too much. If it would cost too much for the ECB then it would be too much for Essex as we would only be using for a smaller number of games.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/cricket/london-stadium-cricket-world-cup-2019-venues-stadiums-jonathan-liew-column-a8326251.html says it all!
Plus - remember - next yet the T20 will be mid May to July - can't see that working well either.
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Nice article.
Particularly enjoyed the digs at West Ham. ;D
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Nice to see that even the Government in the guise of the Chief Medical Officer is aghast at the 100's promotion of unhealthy foods and mentioned this openly on BBC news this morning. Only the ECB could not foresee the incongruity of shirt advertising that seems to undermine the whole concept of sport,health and athleticism.
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If I was a Kent fan, which thankfully I'm not, I'd feel as if Oval Invincibles is Surrey under another name what with the colours being very close to those of Surrey plus the 3 top picks all being Surrey players.
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If I was a Kent fan, which thankfully I'm not, I'd feel as if Oval Invincibles is Surrey under another name what with the colours being very close to those of Surrey plus the 3 top picks all being Surrey players.
Oi! No bad language on here - it's K*nt.
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From Espncric info
English players have been conservative in their salary demands ahead of Sunday's inaugural draft for The Hundred, with only 19 of the 330 domestic players choosing to put down a reserve price.
While many of the big overseas names in the draft have opted for a base price of £100,000 or more, meaning they will have to be picked in the first four rounds if at all, only four English players - Joe Denly, Liam Livingstone, Samit Patel and Mark Wood - have dared to enter with a reserve price as high as £60,000.
Seven players - Ian Bell, Sam Billings, Morne Morkel, Liam Plunkett, Delray Rawlins, Olly Stone and Ryan ten Doeschate - have entered with a reserve price of £50,000.
Eight more - Kyle Abbott, Daniel Bell-Drummond, Gareth Harte, Richard Levi, Wayne Madsen, Hamidullah Qadri, Rilee Rossouw and Hardus Viljoen - have a reserve price of £40,000, while the rest have none, meaning they could go for as little as £30,000.
The vast majority of players with a county deal have put their names forward, meaning there are few notable omissions - though some red-ball specialists like Alastair Cook, Rob Yates and Nick Browne have not entered.
Those without a base price that can hope to be picked up relatively early in the draft include Ravi Bopara, Liam Dawson, Cameron Delport, Lewis Gregory, Tymal Mills and Reece Topley, while the overwhelming majority of recent stars in the T20 Blast are on the full list.
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Looking at the overseas list,
Peter Siddle has put himself in for a £50,000 reserve price.
Neil Wagner is in with no reserve price
Amir has a £100,000 reserve price.
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Adam Zampa is in there also
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So everyone has a price. Would it not be nice if a prominent player came out and said I won't nothing to do with this tosh? Integrity does not pay the bills I suppose. :(
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So everyone has a price. Would it not be nice if a prominent player came out and said I won't nothing to do with this tosh? Integrity does not pay the bills I suppose. :(
The multi-millionaire Virat Kohli has not joined the circus..I think.
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So everyone has a price. Would it not be nice if a prominent player came out and said I won't nothing to do with this tosh? Integrity does not pay the bills I suppose. :(
The multi-millionaire Virat Kohli has not joined the circus..I think.
The Indian players aren't allowed to sign up for overseas cricket leagues. The BCCI wont let them. They allow them to play in the 4 day and 50 over cricket over here but no T20 and no 100.
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Domestic list out this morning.
The Essex players entered into the draft are:-
Ryan Ton Doeschtate - Reserve Price £50,000.
No reserve price
Aaron Beard
Ravi Boprara - Listed under Essex
Will Buttleman
Varun Chopra
Sam Cook
Cameron Delport
Simon Harmer
Aron Nijjar
Rishi Patel
Michael Pepper
Jamie Porter
Matthew Quinn
Shane Snater
Paul Walter
TOm Westley
Adam Wheater
and of course we know Dan has already been chosen.
Now I think it's highly unlikely that a lot of the above will be chosen!
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Glancing at that list it seems that Nick Browne is the man to be admired for ignoring it.
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Glancing at that list it seems that Nick Browne is the man to be admired for ignoring it.
Don't be silly. He knows he wouldn't get selected.
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Why wouldnt a player go in for it. The average county pro has a great chance to make some serious money.
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Cricinfo did a mock draft in which the only drafted Essex players were Harmer and Lawrence. I don’t count Delport as he wouldn’t be available to us when the 100 is being played.
If it shakes down like that we should have a good chance in the RL Cup, which of course we will all be watching instead of this load of old tosh.
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At no reserve price, Harmer probably has a good chance. Tendo’s price could scupper his chances. The rest won’t get a gig and if they do it’ll be to carry drinks for the month.
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will anyone be watching tonight?
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will anyone be watching tonight?
No.
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Harmer's going to Wales...that'll teach him. Foakes is going north.
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Not watching and giving Sky a viewer. Hopefully 60k in Tendo’s pocket will make up for playing in front of one man and his dog in Wales.
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Not watching and giving Sky a viewer. Hopefully 60k in Tendo’s pocket will make up for playing in front of one man and his dog in Wales.
I'd need a lot more than 60k to set foot in Wales boyo
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Not watching and giving Sky a viewer. Hopefully 60k in Tendo’s pocket will make up for playing in front of one man and his dog in Wales.
I'd need a lot more than 60k to set foot in Wales boyo
I think you mean one man and his sheep... ba!
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So..
Welsh Fire
Simon Harmer £60,000
Ryan ten Doeschate £50,000
London Spirit
£100,000 Amir
£60,000 Dan Lawrence
Birmingham Phoenix
£100,000 Ravi Bopara
£50,000 Cameron Delport
£40,000 Adam Zampa
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Compare the players we’ve lost to the rest of the Southern counties and we’ve got out of that relatively unscathed. You’d imagine our 50 over team will now look something like this...
Cook
Chopra
Westley (C)
Patel/Khushi
Wheater
Pepper
Walter
Nijar
Siddle (overseas if allowed to play)
Cook
Porter
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Who did Chopra sign for? ;)
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So after all the hype, where are the stars who would not already be playing as overseas players in the blast? No Indians, no South Africans like Rabada or de Kock. There are a few more Australians due to availability but they would have played blast anyway. Much ado about nothing.
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At first I thought it strange that the draft featured so few of the players that helped Essex win the blast and that those who were drafted went for relatively low amounts. Then I noticed that Liam
Livingstone went for 125k. :)
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I see that test matches are being played during the hundred does this mean more players could be added as a replacement and does anybody no what competitions essex will be plsying during this
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I see that test matches are being played during the hundred does this mean more players could be added as a replacement and does anybody no what competitions essex will be plsying during this
I think there will be replacements yes for the county players. Each team will also get another player pick after the blast next summer called a wildcard pick. Essex will just be playing 50 over cricket during it.
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Apparently England Test players (we hope are selected ) are available for 3 out of 8 Hundred games plus the final if their team are finalists.
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So after all the hype, where are the stars who would not already be playing as overseas players in the blast?
That's what struck me.
Smith is the only player I would get out of bed for.
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Wasn't there some recent talk of some championship games being played whilst the new competition is on as well as 50 overs? Amazing how many kolpak/passport of convenience players are involved. Hardly a big payday for home grown players.
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I did notice a few so called lesser home players eg Reece, Whiteley, Moores, Simpson got picked, I was amazes that Like Wright was the very last pick - thought he would have been snapped up a lot earlier.