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Title: Australia vs India
Post by: Andy on January 11, 2021, 02:17:18 PM
Oh dear, Tim Paine has picked up some bad habits to go with his awful keeping.  ;D
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: essexfan548 on January 11, 2021, 02:44:24 PM
Some habits don't appear to change: https://inews.co.uk/sport/cricket/steve-smith-cheating-video-rishabh-pant-guard-australia-vs-india-test-824812

"Steve Smith has been accused of “cheating” again after a video appeared to show the disgraced former Australia captain tampering with India batsman Rishabh Pant’s guard."
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: nat on January 11, 2021, 06:30:42 PM
It's in their DNA. Can't wait for the Ashes with Smith as captain and Paine or Wade as keeper.
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: Andy on January 11, 2021, 09:04:44 PM
Smith rubs out the marks, and meaning that the batsman has to retake his guard,. This uses up more time, when the Aussies are trying to bowl out the Indian lower order.

The Aussies now can't even cheat properly. Muppets. Smith should have a ban for incompetent cheating
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: essexfan548 on January 11, 2021, 10:03:47 PM
Smith rubs out the marks, and meaning that the batsman has to retake his guard,. This uses up more time, when the Aussies are trying to bowl out the Indian lower order.

The Aussies now can't even cheat properly. Muppets. Smith should have a ban for incompetent cheating

Surely he was trying to confuse the batsman and hope he didn't notice - Smith should be banned for breaking the laws of cricket.
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: smandlej on January 12, 2021, 01:26:48 PM
There probably isn't a law against it, more's the pity.  Paine now saying Smith wasn't cheating, but why on earth would you be doing that otherwise?

Apparently the sledging was merciless.  Paine never stops, still at it as the bowler comes in to bowl, so Ashwin steps back.  He should have carried on doing that till Paine shut up - would have wasted even more time.  As you say, Andy, incompetent.

Lynda
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: essexfan548 on January 12, 2021, 01:45:02 PM
There probably isn't a law against it, more's the pity.  Paine now saying Smith wasn't cheating, but why on earth would you be doing that otherwise?


42.2 Level 1 offences and action by umpires

42.2.1 Any of the following actions by a player shall constitute a Level 1 offence:

- wilfully mistreating any part of the cricket ground, equipment or implements used in the match

- showing dissent at an umpire’s decision by word or action

- using language that, in the circumstances, is obscene, offensive or insulting

- making an obscene gesture


41.12.1 It is unfair to cause deliberate or avoidable damage to the pitch. A fielder will be deemed to be causing avoidable damage if either umpire considers that his/her presence on the pitch is without reasonable cause.

I think there's a case
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: Andy on January 12, 2021, 03:05:50 PM
Hung drawn and quartered.
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: smandlej on January 12, 2021, 03:19:47 PM
So there is - but presumably you need the umpire to take action.  Might not have been drawn to their attention, as they may not have seen it themselves - think it happened in a drinks break.  Hopefully will be in the umpires' report.

Lynda
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: nat on January 12, 2021, 04:52:54 PM
Hung drawn and quartered.
transportation to a far off wilderness with dangerous natives and a harsh unpleasant environment.

Canvey Island?
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: smandlej on January 12, 2021, 06:58:57 PM
Hung drawn and quartered.
transportation to a far off wilderness with dangerous natives and a harsh unpleasant environment.

I thought that was where they came from.

Lynda
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: Andy on January 12, 2021, 09:36:03 PM
Hung drawn and quartered.
transportation to a far off wilderness with dangerous natives and a harsh unpleasant environment.

Canvey Island?

Manchester.  Canvey has a lovely view of a gas refinery or two.
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: Andy on January 12, 2021, 09:40:37 PM
The fat that he used his sole to rub the ground shows he was not marking the crease.  He's 'shocked and disappointed' at the suggestions he was up to no good.
 
Is it because Warner has returned?  It appears that whilst he was banned the 'class' behaved reasonably.  Now he's back, the
'easily led' are misbehaving.  Maybe we send Tom Lawrence to stick certain people through a few tables in the Ashes.
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: smandlej on January 13, 2021, 08:32:47 AM
He's only 'shocked and disappointed' because he was found out.

Lynda
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: IlfordEagle on January 13, 2021, 11:11:02 AM
Hung drawn and quartered.
transportation to a far off wilderness with dangerous natives and a harsh unpleasant environment.

Canvey Island?

The standing joke for residents of CI used to be Yellow or Blue ? - Relating to which escape route they should use in the event of the Thames flooding, ironically I believe the routes joined BEFORE reaching the A13!!
I thought when Paine was appointed Capt it was because he was thought to be a more 'decent' type of Captain & person - is that possible with Aussies?
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: essexfan548 on January 13, 2021, 11:12:47 AM
He's only 'shocked and disappointed' because he was found out.

Lynda

Spot on!
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: Slogger on January 13, 2021, 11:49:19 AM
I heard on local radio a few years back that many of the first emigrants were from Canvey/South Essex. So the Aussie drawl is partly based on the old style twangy Essex accent according to the chap on the radio.
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: bwildered on January 13, 2021, 11:51:41 AM
 Surprised that most quotes from players  in the media did not condone it. Suppose every batsman after a break or bowling changed is coached to take a new guard anyway.
Green baggies back to their previous habits, well just cannot take the Aussie out of Australians, and the gravel out of Sky presenters pockets.
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: nat on January 13, 2021, 12:39:19 PM
I heard on local radio a few years back that many of the first emigrants were from Canvey/South Essex. So the Aussie drawl is partly based on the old style twangy Essex accent according to the chap on the radio.
Well Newgate prison must have had many residents from Sarf Essex so it makes sense.
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: Andy on January 15, 2021, 01:39:05 PM
I heard on local radio a few years back that many of the first emigrants were from Canvey/South Essex. So the Aussie drawl is partly based on the old style twangy Essex accent according to the chap on the radio.
Well Newgate prison must have had many residents from Sarf Essex so it makes sense.

I think it's north Essex Suffolk rather than south Essex. I made a mistake in asking a professor based in Canada as to which Antipodean city he came fro.m...it was Ipswich Suffolk!
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: Postman on January 19, 2021, 11:11:08 AM
One of the few benefits of having to get up in the early hours to answer nature's call, common at my age, is that you can keep an eye on cricket abroad. This morning I was able to see the last 20 odd overs of Australia v India on BT and what a performance it was by a very makeshift Indian team, with a reserve attack and no Kohli. Worth the £25 for a month's Sport Pass on its own. I'd be surprised if Root's team get much change out of them in India next month.
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: LeedsExile on January 19, 2021, 11:27:26 AM
I had written India off after the 36 all out but they have shown remarkable resilience losing their captain and numerous players to injury during the series. It is a great result for Test cricket and it's future.
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: honkytonk on January 19, 2021, 03:02:33 PM
I had written India off after the 36 all out but they have shown remarkable resilience losing their captain and numerous players to injury during the series. It is a great result for Test cricket and it's future.

Captaincy wise, Im not too sure it was a handicap losing Kohli.
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: Andy on January 19, 2021, 03:12:13 PM
I had written India off after the 36 all out but they have shown remarkable resilience losing their captain and numerous players to injury during the series. It is a great result for Test cricket and it's future.

Captaincy wise, Im not too sure it was a handicap losing Kohli.

Yes. Half the problem with Indian cricket is they pick on caste rather than ability.
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: nat on January 19, 2021, 03:13:27 PM
I had written India off after the 36 all out but they have shown remarkable resilience losing their captain and numerous players to injury during the series. It is a great result for Test cricket and it's future.

Captaincy wise, Im not too sure it was a handicap losing Kohli.

When you've got Payne as oppo captain and WK you've always got a chance!
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: Slogger on January 19, 2021, 04:34:48 PM
I heard on local radio a few years back that many of the first emigrants were from Canvey/South Essex. So the Aussie drawl is partly based on the old style twangy Essex accent according to the chap on the radio.
Well Newgate prison must have had many residents from Sarf Essex so it makes sense.

I think it's north Essex Suffolk rather than south Essex. I made a mistake in asking a professor based in Canada as to which Antipodean city he came fro.m...it was Ipswich Suffolk!

Maybe Andy. I'm from Castle Hedingham so have that twangy accent myself but now live in the south of the county. I've come across a few people who have the old Essex accent hereabouts but most speak estuary or East End cockney. My late Dad's boss was from Braintree. He was accused of being an Australian in a pub in Bishops Stortford! He then went on holiday to Cornwall and was accused of being a cockney! My Dad wasn't too sure which incident upset his boss the most!
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: Andy on January 19, 2021, 04:51:59 PM
Slogger. My mother and her family come from the Hedingham's and she used to be accused of being an Aussies (which I notice now having been up here for years).

Even before the overspill came from the East end Essex had a variety of accents.
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: Suffolk Richard on January 20, 2021, 08:32:08 PM
One of the few benefits of having to get up in the early hours to answer nature's call, common at my age, is that you can keep an eye on cricket abroad. This morning I was able to see the last 20 odd overs of Australia v India on BT and what a performance it was by a very makeshift Indian team, with a reserve attack and no Kohli. Worth the £25 for a month's Sport Pass on its own. I'd be surprised if Root's team get much change out of them in India next month.


It would be a surprise if England win or draw next month's series. However India have got a bit to live up too now and it could be a case of after the Lord mayors show for them ?

Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: Andy on January 21, 2021, 12:05:39 PM
The big question is whether the pressure of playing at home, and after such a wonderful (but maybe slightly lucky)  win -  plus the missing big name players will be concerned about their position in the team -  will cause the team to fall apart.

It used to be the case that Indian national sides suffered from two things: lack of familiarity with overseas conditions and internal politics. The IPL has addressed the former, but the latter still remains.
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: IlfordEagle on January 21, 2021, 06:56:42 PM
No doubt Kohli will come back in but will he be restored as Captain, maybe he shouldn't be as India did brilliantly without him, but I bet he will.
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: Andy on January 22, 2021, 12:24:13 PM
No doubt Kohli will come back in but will he be restored as Captain, maybe he shouldn't be as India did brilliantly without him, but I bet he will.

I’m hoping that he will be. Obviously his batting will be a problem for us but his captaincy might be a problem for India.
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: JasonP on January 23, 2021, 07:54:49 PM
One of the few benefits of having to get up in the early hours to answer nature's call, common at my age, is that you can keep an eye on cricket abroad. This morning I was able to see the last 20 odd overs of Australia v India on BT and what a performance it was by a very makeshift Indian team, with a reserve attack and no Kohli. Worth the £25 for a month's Sport Pass on its own. I'd be surprised if Root's team get much change out of them in India next month.


It would be a surprise if England win or draw next month's series. However India have got a bit to live up too now and it could be a case of after the Lord mayors show for them ?

India hammer everyone at home.  Tests in India since 2013

22/02/2013    2012-2013 India v. Australia    India won by 8 wickets
02/03/2013    2012-2013 India v. Australia    India won by an innings and 135 runs
14/03/2013    2012-2013 India v. Australia    India won by 6 wickets
22/03/2013    2012-2013 India v. Australia    India won by 6 wickets
06/11/2013    2013-2014 India v. West Indies    India won by an innings and 51 runs
14/11/2013    2013-2014 India v. West Indies    India won by an innings and 126 runs
05/11/2015    2015-2016 India v. South Africa    India won by 108 runs
13/11/2015    2015-2016 India v. South Africa    Match Drawn
25/11/2015    2015-2016 India v. South Africa    India won by 124 runs
03/12/2015    2015-2016 India v. South Africa    India won by 337 runs
22/09/2016    2016-2017 India v. New Zealand    India won by 197 runs
30/09/2016    2016-2017 India v. New Zealand    India won by 178 runs
08/10/2016    2016-2017 India v. New Zealand    India won by 321 runs
09/11/2016    2016-2017 India v. England    Match Drawn
16/11/2016    2016-2017 India v. England    India won by 246 runs
26/11/2016    2016-2017 India v. England    India won by 8 wickets
08/12/2016    2016-2017 India v. England    India won by an innings and 36 runs
16/12/2016    2016-2017 India v. England    India won by an innings and 75 runs
09/02/2017    2016-2017 India v. Bangladesh    India won by 208 runs
23/02/2017    2016-2017 India v. Australia    Australia won by 333 runs
04/03/2017    2016-2017 India v. Australia    India won by 75 runs
15/03/2017    2016-2017 India v. Australia    Match Drawn
25/03/2017    2016-2017 India v. Australia    India won by 8 wickets
16/11/2017    2017-2018 India v. Sri Lanka    Match Drawn
24/11/2017    2017-2018 India v. Sri Lanka    India won by an innings and 239 runs
02/12/2017    2017-2018 India v. Sri Lanka    Match Drawn
14/06/2018    2017-2018 India v. Afghanistan    India won by an innings and 262 runs
04/10/2018    2018-2019 India v. West Indies    India won by an innings and 272 runs
12/10/2018    2018-2019 India v. West Indies    India won by 10 wickets
02/10/2019    2019-2020 India v. South Africa    India won by 203 runs
10/10/2019    2019-2020 India v. South Africa    India won by an innings and 137 runs
19/10/2019    2019-2020 India v. South Africa    India won by an innings and 202 runs
14/11/2019    2019-2020 India v. Bangladesh    India won by an innings and 130 runs
22/11/2019    2019-2020 India v. Bangladesh    India won by an innings and 46 runs
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: nat on January 24, 2021, 09:56:39 AM
JasonP - not much on the TV?
Title: Re: Australia vs India
Post by: JasonP on January 24, 2021, 12:01:56 PM
JasonP - not much on the TV?

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